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[CoranMoran]

PokerStars 3/6 Hold'em (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

Preflop: Hero is MP with K, K.
UTG raises, Hero 3-bets, 1 fold, SB caps, 1 fold, UTG calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (13 SB) 4, 2, 4 (3 players)
SB bets, UTG calls, Hero raises, SB 3-bets, UTG folds, Hero calls.

Turn: (10 BB) 7 (2 players)
SB bets, Hero raises, SB 3-bets, Hero caps, SB calls.

River: (18 BB) 6 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets ....

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No reads at the time of this hand.

Too aggressive with my overpair?

Against an unknown, this is how I always play this hand.
Villain is obviously representing at least an overpair, himself.
But this doesn't have to be AA.
Because the high card on the board is only a 7, there are still a lot of overpairs that I beat.
Had the turn been a Q, I would have called down after the 3bet.

With this board, my turn cap is a simple win 1-lose 1 scenario.

If he bets the river, I call.
When he checks, I intend to bet-fold.

Thoughts?

Please advise.

--CM

[Zach6668]

50-50 on this being AA and another overpair.

[MrNiceGuy]

I think the turn raise is bad, and I'm pretty sure the turn cap is bad. Since he can be probably 99% sure that AA is good, and since if he has QQ or worse, he should strongly fear you having AA/KK, I think you're basically in a win one/lose two scenario every time you reopen the betting here (since he's almost never 3-betting with a worse hand, and he's always 3-betting with a better hand).

After he caps from the SB preflop after all that EP aggression, I'm weighting his range heavily toward AA/KK/QQ. I like the flop raise, as we can expect worse overpairs to 3-bet to knock out UTG, but after that I'm just calling down as long as he keeps betting.

[Zach6668]

Why not cap the flop?

That was, he's defining his hand with his turn action, really. It also limits us from putting in a ton of bets way behind.

Ie, we cap the flop, and if he still leads the turn, we can simply call down. If he checks, we can bet/call the turn, call river.

[aim786]

Why not cap the flop?

That was, he's defining his hand with his turn action, really. It also limits us from putting in a ton of bets way behind.

Ie, we cap the flop, and if he still leads the turn, we can simply call down. If he checks, we can bet/call the turn, call river.

This is the line I like the most.

[CoranMoran]

After he caps from the SB preflop after all that EP aggression, I'm weighting his range heavily toward AA/KK/QQ. I like the flop raise, as we can expect worse overpairs to 3-bet to knock out UTG, but after that I'm just calling down as long as he keeps betting.

So you feel I raised twice when I shouldn't have?
Your line would get 2 big bets in rather than the 5 in my line.

Why not cap the flop?

Only because I wanted to raise the turn to put more money into the pot.

That was, he's defining his hand with his turn action, really. It also limits us from putting in a ton of bets way behind.
Ie, we cap the flop, and if he still leads the turn, we can simply call down. If he checks, we can bet/call the turn, call

Yes, capping the flop would have been much safer.
By slowplaying the flop slightly, and attempting to get more profit on the turn, I risk losing more as well.

--cm

[gobucks]

If he bets the river, I call.
When he checks, I intend to bet-fold.

Is this an error or do you really fold in this huge pot to a river check raise?

[CoranMoran]

Is this an error or do you really fold in this huge pot to a river check raise?

I will never argue for folding to 1 river bet in a huge pot.
Calling down is never an enormous error.

Having said that, nothing that I beat ever check-raises me on this river after all the aggression I have shown.
In fact , most of the hands that crush me don't even check-raise.
AA doesn't check-raise.
Trips won't check-raise.
The straight doesn't check-raise.
The nut-flush might not even check-raise me at this point.
A check-raise very likely means the Full House.

--cm