Donkeylicious 0 Posted April 7, 2007 Share Posted April 7, 2007 Full Tilt PokerNo Limit Holdem TournamentBlinds: t40/t808 playersConverterStack sizes:UTG: t2455UTG+1: t1845MP1: t2270MP2: t925CO: t510Button: t2805SB: t1350Hero: t1340Pre-flop: (8 players) Hero is BB with 2 Q 2 folds, MP1 calls t80 (pot was t120), 3 folds, SB calls t40 (pot was t200), Hero checks.Flop: 9 K Q (t240, 3 players)SB checks, Hero bets t140, MP1 calls t140 (pot was t380), SB folds.Turn: K (t520, 2 players)Hero bets t200, MP1 raises to t600, Hero raises all-in t1120, MP1 calls t520 (pot was t2240).River: 8 (t2760, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: t2760)Results:Final pot: t2760My line of thinking was such that with a limp call PF and then no raise on the flop, it was VERY likely that he was not holding a K. Link to post Share on other sites
copernicus 0 Posted April 7, 2007 Share Posted April 7, 2007 With this action you cant discount Ks other than AK and may KJ, better Qs, or a straight. Link to post Share on other sites
Donkeylicious 0 Posted April 8, 2007 Author Share Posted April 8, 2007 With this action you cant discount Ks other than AK and may KJ, better Qs, or a straight.Im not sure im following you...Would you mind expounding? Link to post Share on other sites
NEtwowilldo 0 Posted April 8, 2007 Share Posted April 8, 2007 Slowplayed the 10 J didn't he? That hand is very possible here. So is K 9.Either way I hate pushing here because we only get called if we are drawing dead.If you really think your hand is good you can just call here then make a smallish but not too weak-looking defensive bet on the river. If you still get raised, let it go. Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisRichey 1 Posted April 8, 2007 Share Posted April 8, 2007 The lead on the flop is a bit aggressive for my tastes, but it's probably a difference in style. On the turn, you really need to slow down. What do you think he called you on the flop with? You have second pair, bottom kicker, and you push when he reraises you? I think it's an easy c/f on the turn after you got called on the flop. Even if he only has a heart draw, are you really willing to risk your whole stack with this hand? Being LAG is fine, but this is suicidal. Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted April 8, 2007 Share Posted April 8, 2007 I hate the way you played this hand. I don't really know what else to say. The only reason the push on the turn has value is if you fold a better queen, or get called by a 9. I don't think this EVER happens.Seriously, just check/fold the flop.Or, I don't mind the flop bet, but when you're called, c/f the turn. Link to post Share on other sites
copernicus 0 Posted April 8, 2007 Share Posted April 8, 2007 Im not sure im following you...Would you mind expounding?Sorry..it was late. I was trying to say that there are approximately 1,795,233 hands that beat you here, but everyone else said it better! Link to post Share on other sites
ramenandeggs 0 Posted April 8, 2007 Share Posted April 8, 2007 yes, bad push. bad hand, worst flop, and no FE. Link to post Share on other sites
donk4life 34 Posted April 8, 2007 Share Posted April 8, 2007 You can't even min raise here, what do you expect him to fold here? That raise on the turn signifies that he has a strong hand, I believe had jack 10 or a weak king..Bad play Link to post Share on other sites
YBravo 0 Posted April 8, 2007 Share Posted April 8, 2007 Moral of the story#1: When your opponent doesn't raise your bet on the flop, that doesn't necessarily mean he has a bad hand. (This comes down to reads, mostly.)Moral of the story#2: Play cautiously with marginal hands on coordinated flops. Link to post Share on other sites
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