Qq With River Issues...

[Zach6668 513]

Absolute PokerLimit Holdem Ring gameLimit: $2/$46 playersConverterPre-flop: (6 players) Hero is SB with [Qd] [Qh] UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, CO calls, Button folds, Hero raises, BB calls, UTG 3-bets, CO calls, Hero caps, BB folds, UTG calls, CO calls.Flop: [4h] [2h] [9s] (14SB, 3 players)Hero bets, UTG calls, CO calls.Turn: [8h] (8.5BB, 3 players)Hero bets, UTG calls, CO calls.River: [Ac] (11.5BB, 3 players)....UTG is unknown, only 15 hands.CO is bad... 76/11/1.85 with a river AF of 8.0, fwiw, over 70 hands.What's our river plan?

[Moneyball16 0]

I c/c as long as there isnt a bet then a call. I think if utg bets I call an unknown for value and notes getting 12.5-1 and Co seems that he could be bluffing enough to call aswell.

[aim786 0]

I c/c the river.

[CoranMoran 0]

First of all, I never fold Queens here unless I'm facing 2 bets at some point.In general, I typically bet out with my hand, even when a scare card hits.Against 1 opponent, I bet-call this always.Being out of position against 2 opponents makes value betting a lot harder.Villain's 8.0 river AF tells us a few things:- he certainly doesn't call too many rivers- he probably raises a lot of rivers- and he likely bets passive rivers with or without the best handIf these assumptions are true, then betting into this Villain has very little value.So I see nothing wrong with a check-call.But I won't fold to 1 bet in this big pot, even if it means overcalling.--CM