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[Heritage05]

I was at my local casino for my birthday, and decided to try some no limit. I wanted to get some opinions on this hand since I usually don't play no limit at all outside of tournaments now and then.


Villian 1 ($400)
Villian 2 ($120)
Hero ($210)

Dealt to Hero (AQh)

Villian 1(UTG) Raise to $15, MP2 Call $15, Villian 2(SB) Call $15, Hero(BB) Call $15

Flop : Ac Qd 9h (Pot $55)

SB check, Hero check, UTG Bet $40 , MP2 fold, SB Call $40 , (Pot $135)

Hero ?


I had been at the table for awhile at this point and had been playing pretty tight. UTG had been raising preflop that much with any pocket pair, and A10-AK. The SB was stuck about $300 since I had sat down and was playing any two cards pretty much.

[krup24]

Maybe I'm missing something but the only reason to check the flop is to go for a C/R and you got what you wanted now pop that up to $120 and open push any turn.

[Acid_Knight]

Agreed. The only reason that you're checking that flop is to C/R. You can C/R half of your stack or the whole thing. It doesn't matter since it's going all in on the turn anyway.

[Heritage05]

Yes, That had been my plan when I saw the flop. I was going to C/R any continuation bet from the preflop raiser.

The $40 flat call from the small blind was a bit surprising, but didn't impact my plan that much really although I thought it over for a bit when my turn came to act.

I just wanted some thoughts from you guys who actually play no limit regularly before I reveal the rest of the action that hand.

[Jordan]

most def. have to c/r.

lots of money in the pot, taking it down here is fine, but ideally we get called by a gutterball, or AJ/AK, type hands...I'd c/r to induce some action, prob to 120, and shove any turn.

- Jordan

[chgocubs99]

I'd shove. Raising to $120 leaves you $70 behind. Anyone that will call the turn certainly will call the river. Make 10J pay to hit his draw and give youself the image of someone who will move in with a strong hand, and not just an overpair or a bluff to make you more unpredictable for the rest of your session.

[Sefaje]

Most hands are drawing pretty badly against you. There is no flush draw --- only JT has more than 3 outs. (well, KT/KJ could have 4. heh.)

You've got the backdoor nut flush draw and can fill up even if someone makes a straight.

So, I don't think it's bad to let them call you. I'd make it enough that the turn is an auto-shove, but I'd try -not- to scare away AK/AJ/AT.

I think everyone has said enough --- make it about $110-120 and it's all going in on the turn. If someone has 99 or something, that's a really bad cooler.

[Willing 2 Die]

so, what was the result?

[mtdesmoines]

Hero ?

Push a bunch of chips in there.
A whole bunch.

[Willing 2 Die]

Im putting the SB on either a Q9 or a set of nines, i dont know why but i just have that feeling.

I'm early in my live 1-2 NL career here, but if i'm in the Hero's seat, i dont' know if i can get away from getting all my chips in the middle of the pot on this one unless i am last to act after some heavy betting and raising in front of me. Anyone else feel the same with only 200 behind you?

[Heritage05]

Ok, here is the rest of the action of that hand.

I was going to C/R the preflop raiser to $100 until the SB flatcalled his $40 bet. After that I decided to just get it all in the middle and shoved for about $155 more.

The UTG raiser thought about it for 2-3 minutes before folding and saying that he was making a big laydown. He claimed to have had AJ after the hand was completed.

The SB said that he knew he was beat, but had alot of outs against me, then put in his last $80.


Turn: 8h (Pot $335)

River: 3c (Final pot $335)

SB turned over Jd 10c for the straight to take the pot.


Thanks for all the opinions on how the hand played out.

I think I made a mistake by pushing perhaps since I chased out the AJ instead of trying to get him to come along for the ride as well ?

[Naismith]

I think I made a mistake by pushing perhaps since I chased out the AJ instead of trying to get him to come along for the ride as well ?

Once his bet is smooth-called, you don't have a choice. If he comes along, great. If not, oh well. You played it perfectly, unless you put the guy on a big ace, in which case, bet out, let him raise you and push out the straight draw.

[mtdesmoines]

Ok, here is the rest of the action of that hand.

I was going to C/R the preflop raiser to $100 until the SB flatcalled his $40 bet. After that I decided to just get it all in the middle and shoved for about $155 more.

The UTG raiser thought about it for 2-3 minutes before folding and saying that he was making a big laydown. He claimed to have had AJ after the hand was completed.

The SB said that he knew he was beat, but had alot of outs against me, then put in his last $80.
Turn: 8h (Pot $335)

River: 3c (Final pot $335)

SB turned over Jd 10c for the straight to take the pot.
Thanks for all the opinions on how the hand played out.

I think I made a mistake by pushing perhaps since I chased out the AJ instead of trying to get him to come along for the ride as well ?

Bad luck. That's a moronic way to spend $80 on the part of the small blind.