hblask 1 Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 ...and what do I do on the river?Poker StarsLimit Holdem Ring gameLimit: $0.50/$16 playersConverterStack sizes:UTG: $26.05UTG+1: $7.55hblask: $24.45Button: $28.60SB: $2.70BB: $9.55Pre-flop: (6 players) hblask is CO with K Q 2 folds, hblask raises, 2 folds, BB calls.Flop: 9 2 8 (4.5SB, 2 players)BB checks, hblask checks.Turn: K (2.25BB, 2 players)BB bets, hblask raises, BB calls.River: Q (6.25BB, 2 players)BB checks, hblask bets, BB raises, hblask ????. Link to post Share on other sites
NocturnalRob 0 Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 you may be missing a bet, but i go ahead and call. not sure how the villain plays, but j10? backed into a spade? regardless, i think you go ahead and call. lot of hands that beat you. Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted March 22, 2007 Share Posted March 22, 2007 Bet the flop! Link to post Share on other sites
donk4life 34 Posted March 22, 2007 Share Posted March 22, 2007 Bet the flop! Link to post Share on other sites
hblask 1 Posted March 22, 2007 Author Share Posted March 22, 2007 Bet the flop!OK, I'm interested in hearing more about this. This has seemed to be one of my big leaks in the past -- continuation bets with K-high. There is no chance this person is folding to a flop bet. I'm wondering if this has some bigger purpose, because at this level it hasn't worked for me. Link to post Share on other sites
donk4life 34 Posted March 22, 2007 Share Posted March 22, 2007 OK, I'm interested in hearing more about this. This has seemed to be one of my big leaks in the past -- continuation bets with K-high. There is no chance this person is folding to a flop bet. I'm wondering if this has some bigger purpose, because at this level it hasn't worked for me.I dunno, I just wanted to repeat what Zach said.. Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted March 22, 2007 Share Posted March 22, 2007 OK, I'm interested in hearing more about this. This has seemed to be one of my big leaks in the past -- continuation bets with K-high. There is no chance this person is folding to a flop bet. I'm wondering if this has some bigger purpose, because at this level it hasn't worked for me.1) Most players fold enough to make it profitable.2) Free river, ie check through on the turn, if you miss.3) Ability to fire the turn, if we'd prefer a free showdown, although I would make this play with Ace high, before King high.4) We get solid info if we're raised on the flop. Usually we can call, and fold turn UI.5) It's heads up and aggression pwns.:DBtw, I just call the river, as played. A flop bet might have folded, or at least charged a bdfd. Link to post Share on other sites
KDawgCometh 2 Posted March 22, 2007 Share Posted March 22, 2007 1) Most players fold enough to make it profitable.2) Free river, ie check through on the turn, if you miss.3) Ability to fire the turn, if we'd prefer a free showdown, although I would make this play with Ace high, before King high.4) We get solid info if we're raised on the flop. Usually we can call, and fold turn UI.5) It's heads up and aggression pwns. Btw, I just call the river, as played. A flop bet might have folded, or at least charged a bdfd. 6) we may actually have the best handyou can't forget that fact. not betting this flop=bad. as is, I'm calling the river. He could very well have a worse two pair, and we certainly aren't ahead anywhere near enough to three bet Link to post Share on other sites
CoranMoran 0 Posted March 22, 2007 Share Posted March 22, 2007 The flop bet is something you must start doing. There is no chance this person is folding to a flop betMany opponents will defend their big blind with junk.And so they will fold the flop if they wiff.And if they don't, that's good too!Because then you just got in a value bet against his garbage hand.Btw, I just call the river, as played as is, I'm calling the river. He could very well have a worse two pair, and we certainly aren't ahead anywhere near enough to three betInteresting.Villain's play tells me that the Q improved his hand.But I feel that it probably helped my hand more.I expect to see a lesser 2 pair much more often than a backdoored Flush.I 3bet this river.And while I hate raise-folding, I don't expect to necessarily be capped by the FLush.So the damage shouldn't be too bad.--CM Link to post Share on other sites
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