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#1 WrongWay

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Posted 19 March 2007 - 02:20 PM

http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/070319/katrina_dro...rance.html?.v=6

"Disgusted with his insurance company after Hurricane Katrina, the Rev. Simmie Harvey let his homeowner policy lapse and left his house in the hands of a higher power.
Somebody up there must like the 88-year-old Baptist minister: His newly uninsured house escaped serious damage last month when a tornado ripped through the city's Uptown neighborhood and toppled a tree that narrowly missed his home.

"I wasn't lucky. I'm blessed," he said. "I'm going to be all right. The Lord takes care of me."



And when this brain-washed idiot loses everything, who is he going to go to for help? God, or the govt. (tax payer)?
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Posted 19 March 2007 - 02:29 PM

I hate religion too, but probably for different reasons than you.
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Posted 19 March 2007 - 08:10 PM

QUOTE (WrongWay @ Monday, March 19th, 2007, 6:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/070319/katrina_dro...rance.html?.v=6

"Disgusted with his insurance company after Hurricane Katrina, the Rev. Simmie Harvey let his homeowner policy lapse and left his house in the hands of a higher power.
Somebody up there must like the 88-year-old Baptist minister: His newly uninsured house escaped serious damage last month when a tornado ripped through the city's Uptown neighborhood and toppled a tree that narrowly missed his home.

"I wasn't lucky. I'm blessed," he said. "I'm going to be all right. The Lord takes care of me."
And when this brain-washed idiot loses everything, who is he going to go to for help? God, or the govt. (tax payer)?


You did it again, you didn't read the whole article, just stopped at the first paragraph, otherwise, what in Sam Hill are you going on about? This guy has paid insurance premiums for the life of his home loan, which was many manyyears as he seems to own it outright now or he couldn't drop the insurance. So, he gets paid a paltry 4k for 10k in damage - the 10k was probabaly less than .05% of his total pay-out minus interest over all those years. You claim to be a math wiz, calculate the average homeowner's yearly insurance over a thirty year mortagage and add in the interest if they had even put that money in a simple savings account.

He'd be a hell of a lot better off. Buying insurance is betting against yourself. These people got screwed, so much for faith in man and his systems. He put his faith in God and came away much better off. He went all-in and won.
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Posted 20 March 2007 - 07:59 AM

I did read the whole article. I've replaced the roof on a house after hail damage. Even if you take it down to the rafters, replacing plywood sheeting, tar paper and shingles, it won't cost anything close to $10,000....unless he has something a lot bigger than a modest ranch that the article states. I had the roof replaced on my 2400 sq ft split level for about $3K.

Insurance should be seen as protection against major loss... new roof? Engh... was probably old and needed replaced anyway.


His argument wasn't that insurance was a bad deal. His argument was that he didn't need insurance because God will protect him.
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Posted 20 March 2007 - 08:34 AM

Too bad God hates all of his neighbors.
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Posted 20 March 2007 - 01:03 PM


I was not lying. I said things that later on seemed to be untrue. - Richard Nixon

People come to Washington believing it is the center of power. It was only much later that I learned that Washington is a steering wheel that's not connected to an engine.

I look at the Senators and pray for this country.

It may be true that you can't fool all the people all the time, but you can fool enough of them to rule a large country.


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Posted 20 March 2007 - 01:11 PM


I was not lying. I said things that later on seemed to be untrue. - Richard Nixon

People come to Washington believing it is the center of power. It was only much later that I learned that Washington is a steering wheel that's not connected to an engine.

I look at the Senators and pray for this country.

It may be true that you can't fool all the people all the time, but you can fool enough of them to rule a large country.


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Posted 20 March 2007 - 01:15 PM

QUOTE (WrongWay @ Tuesday, March 20th, 2007, 11:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I did read the whole article. I've replaced the roof on a house after hail damage.

Denver? I don't know what happened to his house, I do know when a roof blows off, it can warp the walls, and you get a lot of interior damage. But - not an expert, haven''t seen his house. Yes, he did put his faith in God, and you objected I guess because it seemed to work. I still find the whole thread a little odd for this reason, but, whatever, it's your thread.

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Too bad God hates all of his neighbors.


BTW, Tim, maybe God didn't "hate" all of his neighbors, maybe it was chance or maybe instead of "god" being some Cosmic Bearded Santa, God is energy you or the Reverend can access through something labelled "faith" and it was the Reverend himself, who saved his own house.
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Posted 20 March 2007 - 03:07 PM

QUOTE (11 to 1 @ Tuesday, March 20th, 2007, 2:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
BTW, Tim, maybe God didn't "hate" all of his neighbors, maybe it was chance or maybe instead of "god" being some Cosmic Bearded Santa, God is energy you or the Reverend can access through something labelled "faith" and it was the Reverend himself, who saved his own house.


Maybe monkeys flew out of the reverands butt, pushed the tree enough to make it miss his house, then jumped back into his butt, all without him noticing.

Maybe the insurance company is run by beings from the planet Mercury, and to reduce their claims they used their alien technology to tractor beam the tree away from his house.

Maybe an infinate number of stupid and silly possibilites.

Or maybe it was simply that the tree missed his house this time. That the winds damaged his roof, but not enough for it to cost enough to repair for him to get back all of the money hes paid into the insurance company. Maybe he's just as likely as his neighbor to have his house destroyed in the near future, and when it happens, somehow I dobt he'll use it as proof of no god.

See, this is how religion works. When something good happens, it is proof of god. When something bad happens... well, the lord works in mysterious ways.
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Posted 20 March 2007 - 08:22 PM

QUOTE (WrongWay @ Tuesday, March 20th, 2007, 4:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Maybe monkeys flew out of the reverands butt, pushed the tree enough to make it miss his house, then jumped back into his butt, all without him noticing.

Maybe the insurance company is run by beings from the planet Mercury, and to reduce their claims they used their alien technology to tractor beam the tree away from his house.

Maybe an infinate number of stupid and silly possibilites.

Or maybe it was simply that the tree missed his house this time. That the winds damaged his roof, but not enough for it to cost enough to repair for him to get back all of the money hes paid into the insurance company. Maybe he's just as likely as his neighbor to have his house destroyed in the near future, and when it happens, somehow I dobt he'll use it as proof of no god.

See, this is how religion works. When something good happens, it is proof of god. When something bad happens... well, the lord works in mysterious ways.




What was that, 200 words with no real point? If I cared it would sadden me a little.

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Posted 20 March 2007 - 11:37 PM

QUOTE (WrongWay @ Tuesday, March 20th, 2007, 7:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Or maybe it was simply that the tree missed his house this time.


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Posted 24 March 2007 - 01:38 PM

I thought you liked paying taxes, Wrong.
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Posted 24 March 2007 - 07:12 PM

Don't mind me tongue.gif I'm just having some silly fun! Figured the thread title was worthy of these kinds of pics tongue.gif



I was not lying. I said things that later on seemed to be untrue. - Richard Nixon

People come to Washington believing it is the center of power. It was only much later that I learned that Washington is a steering wheel that's not connected to an engine.

I look at the Senators and pray for this country.

It may be true that you can't fool all the people all the time, but you can fool enough of them to rule a large country.


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Posted 29 March 2007 - 07:19 AM

This makes you hate religeon lol don't worry gods only taking 144,000 with him to his zion, you probably won't make the cut anyway !!! icon_hand.gif
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Posted 29 March 2007 - 09:15 PM

QUOTE (Loismustdie @ Tuesday, March 20th, 2007, 8:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
What was that, 200 words with no real point? If I cared it would sadden me a little.

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This was the point of his post...

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See, this is how religion works. When something good happens, it is proof of god. When something bad happens... well, the lord works in mysterious ways.


...and it's true. How any rational human can believe this is a complete mystery to me. Whatever helps you get to sleep at night, though.



It makes me really sad that you obviously just skim past the extremely insightful posts of guys like CrowTrobot and LongLiveYork (I hope I didn't butcher their screen names). I suppose it's easier for you to just focus on the flames and assume that nobody who disagrees with you has anything important to add to the conversation. Although I guess they don't ever really appear in threads that are created just to flame religion instead of actually discussing it.
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Posted 30 March 2007 - 05:44 AM

QUOTE (speedz99 @ Thursday, March 29th, 2007, 9:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It makes me really sad that you obviously just skim past the extremely insightful posts of guys like CrowTrobot and LongLiveYork


I "obviously" don't do anything. It was in direct reference to this thread and the flowchart earlier. What was the point of it exactly? Why even both posting there? What's even the point of this thread? To post a news story about a guy? And provide such wonderful insight like "brainwashed idiot what a SHEEP."
you know its how threads end up. Thankfully there have been some insightful threads by some including 11 to 1 and atheists as well in an attempt to start discussion but this clearly isn't one of them.

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Posted 30 March 2007 - 06:07 AM

QUOTE (Livaso @ Friday, March 30th, 2007, 5:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I "obviously" don't do anything. It was in direct reference to this thread and the flowchart earlier. What was the point of it exactly? Why even both posting there? What's even the point of this thread? To post a news story about a guy? And provide such wonderful insight like "brainwashed idiot what a SHEEP."
you know its how threads end up. Thankfully there have been some insightful threads by some including 11 to 1 and atheists as well in an attempt to start discussion but this clearly isn't one of them.



Please give examples.
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Posted 30 March 2007 - 10:18 AM

QUOTE (Livaso @ Friday, March 30th, 2007, 8:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I "obviously" don't do anything. It was in direct reference to this thread and the flowchart earlier. What was the point of it exactly? Why even both posting there? What's even the point of this thread? To post a news story about a guy? And provide such wonderful insight like "brainwashed idiot what a SHEEP."
you know its how threads end up. Thankfully there have been some insightful threads by some including 11 to 1 and atheists as well in an attempt to start discussion but this clearly isn't one of them.



QUOTE (solderz @ Friday, March 30th, 2007, 9:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Please give examples.



I agree... I'm gonna need some solid examples on that one.
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