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late in a 30 person tournament - what to do?


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#1 QWithATray

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Posted 12 April 2005 - 11:17 AM

$30+3, 3 table tournament on party poker, down to 4 playersPayout is:1st: 2702nd: 2253rd: 1804th: 1355th: 90All 4 players are pretty strong, agressiveSeat 1: 8000 chips, buttonSeat 2: 2000 chips, small blind: 200Me: Seat 3: 6000 chips, big blind: 400Seat 4: 14000 chips I get dealt AKoSeat 4 min-raises to 800Seat 1 makes it 2000Seat 2 (small blind) folds fold, call, or raise?

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Posted 12 April 2005 - 11:28 AM

first question, why the minimum raise? I would have raised more to start with. Your oppenent maybe sensed weakness and reraises. The only hands that really have you dominated are pocket aces and kings. If he doesnt have that at worst you are a slight dog in a race against a small pair. I would reraise all in. but hey thats just me. Yeah and hes the chip leader so maybe hes bullying or trying to pick up the blinds and antes. I say reraise all in.

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Posted 12 April 2005 - 12:09 PM

Easy re-raise all-in for me, but that's just my style. :wink:

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Posted 12 April 2005 - 12:13 PM

Push it all in - it's the difference between climbing the money ladder and going for the whole thing. You've already won anyway... go for it!On a more analytical note - looks like the big stack is trying to bully you, yet another reason to push. And, the earlier poster is right - you should've raised more to begin with.

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Posted 12 April 2005 - 12:13 PM

QWithATray said:

$30+3, 3 table tournament on party poker, down to 4 playersPayout is:1st: 2702nd: 2253rd: 1804th: 1355th: 90All 4 players are pretty strong, agressiveSeat 1: 8000 chips, buttonSeat 2: 2000 chips, small blind: 200Me: Seat 3: 6000 chips, big blind: 400Seat 4: 14000 chips I get dealt AKoSeat 3 min-raises to 800Seat 4 makes it 2000Seat 1 (small blind) folds fold, call, or raise?
I think that you mis-typed the seat #'s. I'll assume thatSeat 4 min-raisesSeat 1 makes it 2000Seat 2 (SB) foldsYou as the BB now have the actionSeat 4 is the big stack so this may be a low $ play to steal the blinds. Seat 1 then raises with an actual hand (could be a reraise to steal the blinds also).3,400 chips in the pot - I would re-raise all in and at worst someone will have AA, KK (whoops) or a PP (slight dog) or you're in the lead.This is also based on your "read" as it looks like any of these players would go in with a less than premium hand.
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Posted 12 April 2005 - 01:27 PM

thanks gobear, you're right, i'll fix that

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Posted 12 April 2005 - 01:30 PM

i pushed all in,the min raise folded,re-raiser called with QQflop KQ8 (so even if i had just called, i'd still go all in here)turn A, river blankoh well, you win some you lose some...

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Posted 12 April 2005 - 01:45 PM

I would have gone all in also. i would fold before i just call
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Posted 12 April 2005 - 01:58 PM

I would have gone all in as well...you've made the money, now it's time to win.4 handed AKo is very powerful, don't let the results get ya down
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Posted 12 April 2005 - 11:30 PM

i do not agree with this all-in crap.i think it's safe to say that you have the min-raiser well dominated (aj, at, kq, etc.), but the other has you for a race. the second guy you'd have to put on a big pair for that kind of reraise (or at least a pp, even if he's a nutjob), so he's not going anywhere on your push. the first guy is for sure going away if you push. you're not getting ANY folding equity, so take that out, unless the guy with 8k has been playing supertight, which isn't likely if he's around at this stage of a more than single table.so the question is, are you willing to bet all of your 6k for 6800 on what you have to figure is no better than 55/45 against? it's slightly better than even pot odds, sure, but the blinds are bloody low for that stage. you're better than these players, so fold. pick a better spot. i swear, people lose so much money at these low-table multis from this sort unnecessary stuff. people get all excitable when the money hits, and i make so much money because of that. you have 15xbb. play with it. don't risk it all in this spot.pushing ak is the right play only if you think you'll get both to call. they won't both call, unless they're idiots, and they're probably not.




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