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[DanielNegreanu]

sjbsjb33, on Friday, March 16th, 2007, 7:57 AM, said:

There is a history here, though, right? Negreanu wrote about it in his blog... at some point, Phil Gordon criticized Lindgren's play in writing. What I don't know is if that criticism came before or after the filiming of this week's show.sjb

His column came AFTER this event. That's what triggered him to write a passive aggressive column trying to "compliment" Erick first, then taking a shot at him by pointing out his "weaknesses." Erick isn't going to take any flack from Gordon. He'll say what's on his mind, and what was on his mind was, "No one cares what you think about the hand." PAD is an excellent show IMO. It really gives the public a more realistic view of some of the poker players in the world as virtually nothing gets left on the cutting room floor.

[CBass1724]

Yep, it let's you know how much of an idiot Phil Gordon really is.The only weakness Erick has is not being able to walk over and pull the trigger on a punch to knock Phil out on national TV.After that, hopefully Chris Tucker would stand over top of PG and say "you got knocked the fack outtt!"

[mtdesmoines]

DanielNegreanu, on Friday, March 16th, 2007, 7:39 AM, said:

His column came AFTER this event. That's what triggered him to write a passive aggressive column trying to "compliment" Erick first, then taking a shot at him by pointing out his "weaknesses." Erick isn't going to take any flack from Gordon. He'll say what's on his mind, and what was on his mind was, "No one cares what you think about the hand." PAD is an excellent show IMO. It really gives the public a more realistic view of some of the poker players in the world as virtually nothing gets left on the cutting room floor.

I agree ... it's more like any live game I've played than any other show out there. I don't know if that means only poker geeks will like it or not, without the constant barrage of all-ins and big hands from several different tables, but from the little I've seen, it's a cool show.

[revg]

Ya I watched the latest PAD, and that second bluff gordon ran was brutal. I mean, what was he even bluffing at? His betting patterns did not make any sense. He was merely throwing chips into a pot blindly and hoping tilly would fold. This is all pretty funny to me considering how Gordon was telling everyone on PAD that he was watching the betting patterns and calculating percentages, ya ok?!?!?!Personally, I think Tilly played pretty bad. Checking the fullhouse on the river becuase she was "scared of quad kings" was an absolute horror. Even IF he did have quad kings, that's just gg me. The all in with middle pair against Harman where she sucked out on the river really left me scratching my head.Anyway, I'm really ticked at Gordon. He's brtual. Maybe he should play on the Celebrity Poker Showdown himself, the players are more is calibur.Cheers,Greg

[Mercury69]

I saw 6 minutes of this. While Phil looks like he's just trying to loosen things up, it's clear that Lindgren and Ivey aren't buying it. Why? Could it be because Ivey and Lindgren are part of a clique, the golf gang? Phil is an outsider to them and, apparently, he's said some things about Lindgren which weren't taken very well. That being said, while I admire Ivey's concentration and such at the table, he seems to be a real social retard. If the 20K doesn't mean that much to him, why is he there and, if he's chosen to be there, why doesn't he act like a human being? Also, Lindgren looks like he just came on the set after an overnight bender. He should take some dietary tips from his buddy, DN.

[irishguy]

Mercury69, on Friday, March 16th, 2007, 8:11 AM, said:

I saw 6 minutes of this. While Phil looks like he's just trying to loosen things up, it's clear that Lindgren and Ivey aren't buying it. Why? Could it be because Ivey and Lindgren are part of a clique, the golf gang? Phil is an outsider to them and, apparently, he's said some things about Lindgren which weren't taken very well. That being said, while I admire Ivey's concentration and such at the table, he seems to be a real social retard. If the 20K doesn't mean that much to him, why is he there and, if he's chosen to be there, why doesn't he act like a human being? Also, Lindgren looks like he just came on the set after an overnight bender. He should take some dietary tips from his buddy, DN.

Its odd that you say this as I found with this show you saw more of Ivey's personality then have been shown elsewhere. He certainly doesn't seem to be a big fan of being on camera but he seemed to loosen up and was joking with the table which is something that I've only seen rarely.FWIW I thought Gordon came off as a social retard, like the geeky little brother trying to fit in. He's making odd comments in an attempt to be funny and looking around for approval. Very odd guy.

[Mercury69]

irishguy, on Friday, March 16th, 2007, 12:23 PM, said:

Its odd that you say this as I found with this show you saw more of Ivey's personality then have been shown elsewhere. He certainly doesn't seem to be a big fan of being on camera but he seemed to loosen up and was joking with the table which is something that I've only seen rarely.FWIW I thought Gordon came off as a social retard, like the geeky little brother trying to fit in. He's making odd comments in an attempt to be funny and looking around for approval. Very odd guy.

Clearly I need to see more of this show and I hope it's in the form of magically winning a seat!

[James D]

lol socialretardaments!I think Phil Ivey just has an extremely low boredom threshold. To the point where sometimes, he just wants to be somewhere else as soon as he's begun playing. The opportunity to win $120,000 must mean a little to him, otherwise he wouldn't be playing (unless there's some kind of Full Tilt ontract thing that I don't know about).I think the whole thing with joker Gordon was that he felt left out, right from the very beginning when his opening comment got burned by Lindgren.He just never had anyone to talk to, and any efforts to initiate something always seemed to end with being ignored, or disagreed with.... quite funny really. His 'that's unbelievable' comment was frickin hilarious!

[Orcasgt22]

Why does everyone critize Miss Tilly for being a bad player. She seems to be doing alot of things right. Yes she has made some dumbass mistakes but thats part of playin the game. Phil Ivey aint exactly playin great, lets all bash him.

[Caught_clean]

Orcasgt22, on Friday, March 16th, 2007, 12:03 PM, said:

Why does everyone critize Miss Tilly for being a bad player. She seems to be doing alot of things right. Yes she has made some dumbass mistakes but thats part of playin the game. Phil Ivey aint exactly playin great, lets all bash him.

Phil didnt play the worst hand ever played on national television mind you. I mean come on even Dennis Rodman at least bets the river.

[psujohn]

Caught_clean, on Friday, March 16th, 2007, 4:32 PM, said:

Phil didnt play the worst hand ever played on national television mind you. I mean come on even Dennis Rodman at least bets the river.

Dennis Rodman bets the river with 3 high.From all that I've heard Tilly is actually quite a decent player. People want to rag on her because she won a woman's event, because she's dating Laak, because she's an actress, because of the tremendous boobages, etc. Her play on PaD wasn't horrid but it certainly wasn't great. I think she wasn't exaggerating when she said she was intimidated by her opponents.

[Caught_clean]

psujohn, on Friday, March 16th, 2007, 12:43 PM, said:

Dennis Rodman bets the river with 3 high.From all that I've heard Tilly is actually quite a decent player. People want to rag on her because she won a woman's event, because she's dating Laak, because she's an actress, because of the tremendous boobages, etc. Her play on PaD wasn't horrid but it certainly wasn't great. I think she wasn't exaggerating when she said she was intimidated by her opponents.

Thats the thing, she always seemed to be decent to me to, thats what I dont get. You cant honeslty say she isn't playing horrid, I'm not harping on her as a person I'm refering to her bag of dirt game so far on PAD.

[Teffy]

James D, on Friday, March 16th, 2007, 8:55 AM, said:

lol socialretardaments!I think Phil Ivey just has an extremely low boredom threshold. To the point where sometimes, he just wants to be somewhere else as soon as he's begun playing. The opportunity to win $120,000 must mean a little to him, otherwise he wouldn't be playing (unless there's some kind of Full Tilt ontract thing that I don't know about).I think the whole thing with joker Gordon was that he felt left out, right from the very beginning when his opening comment got burned by Lindgren.He just never had anyone to talk to, and any efforts to initiate something always seemed to end with being ignored, or disagreed with.... quite funny really. His 'that's unbelievable' comment was frickin hilarious!

DING DING DING!What tipped you off on this, the fact that full tilt is the TITLE SPONSOR???

[Wrathraven]

It's going to be hilarious if the table loosens up in the last episode, after Gordon's table-killing presence was removed from the game. He just made things so akward it was hard to watch. Only Harman seemed able to deal with it, but maybe that's because she had to sit next to him.

[cubsfan44]

Miguel McHarris, on Thursday, March 15th, 2007, 11:02 PM, said:

What's unbelievable Phil, what's unbelievable? I think Ivey hates Gordon more than Lindgren.

QFT

[LBC]

Phil Gordon sounded like such a retard with half of the **** he was saying that I was getting embarassed for him... like when you're watching a tv show like for example the White Rapper Show and the person just all around sucks at life to the point where you almost want to change the channel out of embarassment for that person.

[James D]

Teffy, on Friday, March 16th, 2007, 12:55 PM, said:

DING DING DING!What tipped you off on this, the fact that full tilt is the TITLE SPONSOR???

Ding ding ding?? yeah, good one.So... you know the exact terms of any such contract do you? you know exactly how many of these they have to play? You know how much of their entry fee (if any - depending if there is an hourly rate instead, like HSP) is paid?You obviously know, if this the case, whether all of the pros are paid the same amount? Or does Ivey demand a higher rate than say, David Grey, or any of the other FT pros that have played? And, whilst the title sponsor is Full Tilt, what are the terms under which non-FT pros play under? Obviously you also know Ivey's complete financial situation and how much playing for $120,000 means to him? (which was the the point I was referrring to)hmmm... please tell.

[hockey fan]

The comments from both Gordon and Erick on the "Director's Cut" were classic.If there was any doubt about what Erick thought about Gordon, they were laid to rest:Phil Gordon:"Erick and I have a very interesting relationship, we are very competitive and I think that he kind likes to pick on me a little bit. He thinks I play a lot weaker than I really do."Erick Lindgren:"We've all heard Phil Gordon being an analyst and I don't think any of us want to lose to him, 'cause he clearly doesn't know what's going on." Ironic that when Erick's AQ< PG's 99 he was effectively out.It will be interesting to see if there are any more fireworks between these two in the future.I also wonder how the Full Tilt folks feel about two of their own feuding so publicly.

[EStormOk]

I found it interesting that the great actress couldn't control her breathing when she was in a hand with a big pot. She would breath twice as deep when whe was in a huge pot, I guess it was nerves. She did actually mention it in the director's cuts. Something about not wearing the low cut top, that would suck, that is the only redeeming quality about watching her play poka.

[DanielNegreanu]

If you ever went out for drinks with Ivey you'd find that he is one of the funniest dudes you'll ever meet. He's extremely clever and witty, he just doesn't play up to the cameras. He doesn't really like anyone knowing his business, and he doesn't care much for being on camera. As for him and Erick seemingly ignoring PG, Erick and Phil are good friends. They're just talking to each other and if you listen to the comments PG was making, I think they just didn't even have a response because it was kinda like, huh? What exactly are you talking about?