BudBundy 0 Posted March 15, 2007 Share Posted March 15, 2007 Can anyone explain the importance of position in stud? How does it affect choosing the starting hand? DOes being last to speak gives you a more freedom to chase?I have trouble with starting hands. I am still not sure what to play and what to much. I have just mucked AQT cus there were 2 Ts one Ace and one Q showing. What do i do with 779 rainbow? What do i do with JJ6? What do i do with J6J?I have 9 J A 9 . I bet . One calls showing 7 6. 5th blank. He hits 5 , 4 or any straight completing hand. I bet , he re-raises , I? OR I check , he bets , I call to showdown?I am folding non connecting three to flushes. Right? Also i am dumping them if 3 or more of my outs our showing right? Link to post Share on other sites
BudBundy 0 Posted March 15, 2007 Author Share Posted March 15, 2007 Hand #34769046837 Card Stud *High* ($1/$2), Ante $0.25, Bring-In $0.50 *3rd Street* - (2.00 SB)Jack22: xx xx Ks___callsAnson2901: xx xx Qh___callsbundys2: Qc Ac Tc___callsoliva666: xx xx 9c___foldsUnleashed: xx xx 5d___folds2pairswin: xx xx 3h___*brings-in*___foldsmummysboy: xx xx 9d___foldsploppy: xx xx As___raises $0.75 and is all-in*4th Street* - (5.50 SB)Jack22: xx xx Ks 3d___*bets*Anson2901: xx xx Qh 4d___foldsbundys2: Qc Ac Tc 9s___callsploppy: xx xx As 6s___all-in*5th Street* - (3.75 BB)Jack22: xx xx Ks 3d 9h___*bets*bundys2: Qc Ac Tc 9s 8s___foldsploppy: xx xx As 6s Qs___all-inEasy fold? Link to post Share on other sites
BudBundy 0 Posted March 15, 2007 Author Share Posted March 15, 2007 Hand #34768273237 Card Stud *High* ($1/$2), Ante $0.25, Bring-In $0.50 *3rd Street* - (2.00 SB)Joh021051: xx xx Ts___callsUnleashed: xx xx 5d___foldsmummysboy: xx xx Tc___foldsaxesrus: xx xx 3s___foldsbundys2: 9h Ah 2c___*brings-in*bloeffus: xx xx Ad___callsshw36: xx xx Ac___foldsTrifle1: xx xx 6h___calls*4th Street* - (4.00 SB)Joh021051: xx xx Ts As___*checks*bundys2: 9h Ah 2c 3c___checksbloeffus: xx xx Ad 2s___checksTrifle1: xx xx 6h 3d___checks*5th Street* - (2.00 BB)Joh021051: xx xx Ts As 3h___*checks*bundys2: 9h Ah 2c 3c 8c___checksbloeffus: xx xx Ad 2s 8h___checksTrifle1: xx xx 6h 3d 9d___checks*6th Street* - (2.00 BB)Joh021051: xx xx Ts As 3h Kh___bets___callsbundys2: 9h Ah 2c 3c 8c 9c___raisesbloeffus: xx xx Ad 2s 8h 2d___*checks*___foldsTrifle1: xx xx 6h 3d 9d Qs___checks___folds*River* - (6.00 BB)Joh021051: xx xx Ts As 3h Kh xx___*checks*___foldsbundys2: 9h Ah 2c 3c 8c 9c 6d___bets*Total pot:* (6.00 BB)Spewing? When he called i thought he was drawing to a flush. On 7th street he either hit and raises so i fold. Or he missed and folds. Right logic? Link to post Share on other sites
LincolnK 1 Posted March 15, 2007 Share Posted March 15, 2007 Can anyone explain the importance of position in stud? How does it affect choosing the starting hand? DOes being last to speak gives you a more freedom to chase?If there are a bunch of limpers in front of you, you can loosen you standards for drawing hands. If I have a big pair, I raise. If i have a lower pair, I limp and evaluate on 4th. If most of the table folds, I'm more likely to bet hard with a good draw.I have trouble with starting hands. I am still not sure what to play and what to much. I have just mucked AQT cus there were 2 Ts one Ace and one Q showing. good fold. thats a lot of your cards gone.What do i do with 779 rainbow? What do i do with JJ6? What do i do with J6J?779: assuming none of your cards are gone, try to get in cheap. if there are a bunch of folds ahead of me, i'll consider raising. if a bigger door card raises, consider folding.JJ6: i raise an unraised pot. i push pretty hard until i know i'm beat. if a door card less than a jack raises, i probably reraise. maybe call a raise from an over card and evaluate from there.J6J: raise an unraised pot. call or fold to a suspected over pair.I have 9 J A 9 . I bet . One calls showing 7 6. 5th blank. He hits 5 , 4 or any straight completing hand. I bet , he re-raises , I? OR I check , he bets , I call to showdown?I lead and call the raise. if i improve and he blanks i lead out again, and call it down. I have no idea if this is a good line or not. i'm not getting away from hit unless he's showing 4 to a whatever, or i'm 95% he already has it, but it is easier if you miss on the next card.I am folding non connecting three to flushes. Right? Also i am dumping them if 3 or more of my outs our showing right?why would you fold if they're not connected? if they're all small cards and a bunch of my outs are gone, i probably dump it. even with a few cards gone, i'm going to play if i have big suited cards. if there is a bunch of raising aheaad of me, i'll be more careful about getting involved. but i'm usually playing. Link to post Share on other sites
LincolnK 1 Posted March 15, 2007 Share Posted March 15, 2007 make a new thread for each hand.Hand #34769046837 Card Stud *High* ($1/$2), Ante $0.25, Bring-In $0.50 *3rd Street* - (2.00 SB)Jack22: xx xx Ks___callsAnson2901: xx xx Qh___callsbundys2: Qc Ac Tc___callsoliva666: xx xx 9c___foldsUnleashed: xx xx 5d___folds2pairswin: xx xx 3h___*brings-in*___foldsmummysboy: xx xx 9d___foldsploppy: xx xx As___raises $0.75 and is all-incall is fine here. if i have good command of the table i might even raise.*4th Street* - (5.50 SB)Jack22: xx xx Ks 3d___*bets*Anson2901: xx xx Qh 4d___foldsbundys2: Qc Ac Tc 9s___callsploppy: xx xx As 6s___all-indefinitely raising here. look up free card play if you're not familiar with it. if he repops it, i call but get ready to fold on 5th. *5th Street* - (3.75 BB)Jack22: xx xx Ks 3d 9h___*bets*bundys2: Qc Ac Tc 9s 8s___foldsploppy: xx xx As 6s Qs___all-inEasy fold?as played, it's a tough one. i lean towards folding. if i'm feeling adventurous, i raise to back him off.if i hit a jack on 6th i'm betting/raising. if i get a club i'm calling. if otherwise and he improves, i consider folding.with the free card play here, its unlikely you're going to be first to act on 5th without a card that's a big boost to your hand. if we had improved, i lead out. things might get trickier from there.this is a hand where i'd really want to see 6th street. it'd be a lot easier if we had raised 4th. Link to post Share on other sites
LincolnK 1 Posted March 15, 2007 Share Posted March 15, 2007 Hand #34768273237 Card Stud *High* ($1/$2), Ante $0.25, Bring-In $0.50 *3rd Street* - (2.00 SB)Joh021051: xx xx Ts___callsUnleashed: xx xx 5d___foldsmummysboy: xx xx Tc___foldsaxesrus: xx xx 3s___foldsbundys2: 9h Ah 2c___*brings-in*bloeffus: xx xx Ad___callsshw36: xx xx Ac___foldsTrifle1: xx xx 6h___calls*4th Street* - (4.00 SB)Joh021051: xx xx Ts As___*checks*bundys2: 9h Ah 2c 3c___checksbloeffus: xx xx Ad 2s___checksTrifle1: xx xx 6h 3d___checksi might take a stab if i think i can take it down here. checking is ok though.*5th Street* - (2.00 BB)Joh021051: xx xx Ts As 3h___*checks*bundys2: 9h Ah 2c 3c 8c___checksbloeffus: xx xx Ad 2s 8h___checksTrifle1: xx xx 6h 3d 9d___checksdefinitely bet here. nobody looks to have much of anything and probably shouldn't be calling.*6th Street* - (2.00 BB)Joh021051: xx xx Ts As 3h Kh___bets___callsbundys2: 9h Ah 2c 3c 8c 9c___raisesbloeffus: xx xx Ad 2s 8h 2d___*checks*___foldsTrifle1: xx xx 6h 3d 9d Qs___checks___foldsa bet on 5th probably likely would've stopped joh from betting, in which case i would've bet out. as played, i like the raise.*River* - (6.00 BB)Joh021051: xx xx Ts As 3h Kh xx___*checks*___foldsbundys2: 9h Ah 2c 3c 8c 9c 6d___betsi think this is fine. checking is ok too, but i lean towards the bet. the only difference to the results if is he just has kings, where you can force him to fold the better hand (unless he's retarded and calls anyway). if he's got nothing, you beat him either way. there's no reason you should be calling a check-raise on the river. fold or get called, it costs you a bet either way. the benefit of checking is not risking an extra bet when you might not need to.*Total pot:* (6.00 BB)Spewing? When he called i thought he was drawing to a flush. On 7th street he either hit and raises so i fold. Or he missed and folds. Right logic?its pretty hard to determine where he's at with no action until 6th street. try to take control earlier and it should make things clearer towards the end. Link to post Share on other sites
BudBundy 0 Posted March 15, 2007 Author Share Posted March 15, 2007 with the free card play here, its unlikely you're going to be first to act on 5th without a card that's a big boost to your hand. if we had improved, i lead out. things might get trickier from there.this is a hand where i'd really want to see 6th street. it'd be a lot easier if we had raised 4th.[/b]Free card as in ?Hand #34790578937 Card Stud *High* ($1/$2), Ante $0.25, Bring-In $0.50 *3rd Street* - (1.50 SB)bundys2: Kc Kh 7d___raisesaplistos: xx xx Qs___callskvetch: xx xx Ah___foldseboat: xx xx 2h___*brings-in*___callsbulletsuk: xx xx 3c___foldsBlueEyes: xx xx 9d___folds*4th Street* - (4.50 SB)bundys2: Kc Kh 7d 6c___double-raisesaplistos: xx xx Qs Jh___*checks*___callseboat: xx xx 2h 6h___bets___calls*5th Street* - (5.25 BB)bundys2: Kc Kh 7d 6c 9h___checksaplistos: xx xx Qs Jh 6d___*checks*eboat: xx xx 2h 6h Td___checks*6th Street* - (5.25 BB)bundys2: Kc Kh 7d 6c 9h 9c___*bets*aplistos: xx xx Qs Jh 6d 8d___foldseboat: xx xx 2h 6h Td 5d___calls*River* - (7.25 BB)bundys2: Kc Kh 7d 6c 9h 9c 5s___*bets*eboat: xx xx 2h 6h Td 5d xx___calls*Total pot:* (9.25 BB) Link to post Share on other sites
LincolnK 1 Posted March 15, 2007 Share Posted March 15, 2007 yes, but 2 points.1. be careful when you use it. you don't want to bet for a free card and then end up acting first on 5th. neither one of the other guys has a particularly strong hand. you could easily end up with a better board on the next card and be first to act.2. usually free card is for drawing hands. i wouldn't consider this a drawing hand. i'd be raising 4th and betting again on 5th. if it happens that you improve on 5th and are first to act here, its fine because you definitely should be betting it then. Link to post Share on other sites
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