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[BudBundy]

Can anyone explain the importance of position in stud? How does it affect choosing the starting hand? DOes being last to speak gives you a more freedom to chase?

I have trouble with starting hands. I am still not sure what to play and what to much. I have just mucked AQT cus there were 2 Ts one Ace and one Q showing.

What do i do with 779 rainbow? What do i do with JJ6? What do i do with J6J?

I have 9 J A 9 . I bet . One calls showing 7 6. 5th blank. He hits 5 , 4 or any straight completing hand. I bet , he re-raises , I? OR I check , he bets , I call to showdown?

I am folding non connecting three to flushes. Right? Also i am dumping them if 3 or more of my outs our showing right?

[BudBundy]

Hand #3476904683
7 Card Stud *High* ($1/$2), Ante $0.25, Bring-In $0.50

*3rd Street* - (2.00 SB)

Jack22: xx xx Ks___calls
Anson2901: xx xx Qh___calls
bundys2: Qc Ac Tc___calls
oliva666: xx xx 9c___folds
Unleashed: xx xx 5d___folds
2pairswin: xx xx 3h___*brings-in*___folds
mummysboy: xx xx 9d___folds
ploppy: xx xx As___raises $0.75 and is all-in

*4th Street* - (5.50 SB)

Jack22: xx xx Ks 3d___*bets*
Anson2901: xx xx Qh 4d___folds
bundys2: Qc Ac Tc 9s___calls
ploppy: xx xx As 6s___all-in

*5th Street* - (3.75 BB)

Jack22: xx xx Ks 3d 9h___*bets*
bundys2: Qc Ac Tc 9s 8s___folds
ploppy: xx xx As 6s Qs___all-in



Easy fold?

[BudBundy]

Hand #3476827323
7 Card Stud *High* ($1/$2), Ante $0.25, Bring-In $0.50

*3rd Street* - (2.00 SB)

Joh021051: xx xx Ts___calls
Unleashed: xx xx 5d___folds
mummysboy: xx xx Tc___folds
axesrus: xx xx 3s___folds
bundys2: 9h Ah 2c___*brings-in*
bloeffus: xx xx Ad___calls
shw36: xx xx Ac___folds
Trifle1: xx xx 6h___calls

*4th Street* - (4.00 SB)

Joh021051: xx xx Ts As___*checks*
bundys2: 9h Ah 2c 3c___checks
bloeffus: xx xx Ad 2s___checks
Trifle1: xx xx 6h 3d___checks

*5th Street* - (2.00 BB)

Joh021051: xx xx Ts As 3h___*checks*
bundys2: 9h Ah 2c 3c 8c___checks
bloeffus: xx xx Ad 2s 8h___checks
Trifle1: xx xx 6h 3d 9d___checks

*6th Street* - (2.00 BB)

Joh021051: xx xx Ts As 3h Kh___bets___calls
bundys2: 9h Ah 2c 3c 8c 9c___raises
bloeffus: xx xx Ad 2s 8h 2d___*checks*___folds
Trifle1: xx xx 6h 3d 9d Qs___checks___folds

*River* - (6.00 BB)

Joh021051: xx xx Ts As 3h Kh xx___*checks*___folds
bundys2: 9h Ah 2c 3c 8c 9c 6d___bets

*Total pot:* (6.00 BB)

Spewing? When he called i thought he was drawing to a flush. On 7th street he either hit and raises so i fold. Or he missed and folds. Right logic?

[LincolnK]

Can anyone explain the importance of position in stud? How does it affect choosing the starting hand? DOes being last to speak gives you a more freedom to chase?

If there are a bunch of limpers in front of you, you can loosen you standards for drawing hands. If I have a big pair, I raise. If i have a lower pair, I limp and evaluate on 4th. If most of the table folds, I'm more likely to bet hard with a good draw.

I have trouble with starting hands. I am still not sure what to play and what to much. I have just mucked AQT cus there were 2 Ts one Ace and one Q showing.

good fold. thats a lot of your cards gone.

What do i do with 779 rainbow? What do i do with JJ6? What do i do with J6J?

779: assuming none of your cards are gone, try to get in cheap. if there are a bunch of folds ahead of me, i'll consider raising. if a bigger door card raises, consider folding.

JJ6: i raise an unraised pot. i push pretty hard until i know i'm beat. if a door card less than a jack raises, i probably reraise. maybe call a raise from an over card and evaluate from there.

J6J: raise an unraised pot. call or fold to a suspected over pair.

I have 9 J A 9 . I bet . One calls showing 7 6. 5th blank. He hits 5 , 4 or any straight completing hand. I bet , he re-raises , I? OR I check , he bets , I call to showdown?

I lead and call the raise. if i improve and he blanks i lead out again, and call it down. I have no idea if this is a good line or not. i'm not getting away from hit unless he's showing 4 to a whatever, or i'm 95% he already has it, but it is easier if you miss on the next card.

I am folding non connecting three to flushes. Right? Also i am dumping them if 3 or more of my outs our showing right?

why would you fold if they're not connected? if they're all small cards and a bunch of my outs are gone, i probably dump it. even with a few cards gone, i'm going to play if i have big suited cards. if there is a bunch of raising aheaad of me, i'll be more careful about getting involved. but i'm usually playing.

[LincolnK]

make a new thread for each hand.


Hand #3476904683
7 Card Stud *High* ($1/$2), Ante $0.25, Bring-In $0.50

*3rd Street* - (2.00 SB)

Jack22: xx xx Ks___calls
Anson2901: xx xx Qh___calls
bundys2: Qc Ac Tc___calls
oliva666: xx xx 9c___folds
Unleashed: xx xx 5d___folds
2pairswin: xx xx 3h___*brings-in*___folds
mummysboy: xx xx 9d___folds
ploppy: xx xx As___raises $0.75 and is all-in

call is fine here. if i have good command of the table i might even raise.

*4th Street* - (5.50 SB)

Jack22: xx xx Ks 3d___*bets*
Anson2901: xx xx Qh 4d___folds
bundys2: Qc Ac Tc 9s___calls
ploppy: xx xx As 6s___all-in

definitely raising here. look up free card play if you're not familiar with it. if he repops it, i call but get ready to fold on 5th.

*5th Street* - (3.75 BB)

Jack22: xx xx Ks 3d 9h___*bets*
bundys2: Qc Ac Tc 9s 8s___folds
ploppy: xx xx As 6s Qs___all-in
Easy fold?

as played, it's a tough one. i lean towards folding. if i'm feeling adventurous, i raise to back him off.

if i hit a jack on 6th i'm betting/raising. if i get a club i'm calling. if otherwise and he improves, i consider folding.

with the free card play here, its unlikely you're going to be first to act on 5th without a card that's a big boost to your hand. if we had improved, i lead out. things might get trickier from there.

this is a hand where i'd really want to see 6th street. it'd be a lot easier if we had raised 4th.

[LincolnK]

Hand #3476827323
7 Card Stud *High* ($1/$2), Ante $0.25, Bring-In $0.50

*3rd Street* - (2.00 SB)

Joh021051: xx xx Ts___calls
Unleashed: xx xx 5d___folds
mummysboy: xx xx Tc___folds
axesrus: xx xx 3s___folds
bundys2: 9h Ah 2c___*brings-in*
bloeffus: xx xx Ad___calls
shw36: xx xx Ac___folds
Trifle1: xx xx 6h___calls

*4th Street* - (4.00 SB)

Joh021051: xx xx Ts As___*checks*
bundys2: 9h Ah 2c 3c___checks
bloeffus: xx xx Ad 2s___checks
Trifle1: xx xx 6h 3d___checks

i might take a stab if i think i can take it down here. checking is ok though.

*5th Street* - (2.00 BB)

Joh021051: xx xx Ts As 3h___*checks*
bundys2: 9h Ah 2c 3c 8c___checks
bloeffus: xx xx Ad 2s 8h___checks
Trifle1: xx xx 6h 3d 9d___checks

definitely bet here. nobody looks to have much of anything and probably shouldn't be calling.

*6th Street* - (2.00 BB)

Joh021051: xx xx Ts As 3h Kh___bets___calls
bundys2: 9h Ah 2c 3c 8c 9c___raises
bloeffus: xx xx Ad 2s 8h 2d___*checks*___folds
Trifle1: xx xx 6h 3d 9d Qs___checks___folds

a bet on 5th probably likely would've stopped joh from betting, in which case i would've bet out. as played, i like the raise.

*River* - (6.00 BB)

Joh021051: xx xx Ts As 3h Kh xx___*checks*___folds
bundys2: 9h Ah 2c 3c 8c 9c 6d___bets

i think this is fine. checking is ok too, but i lean towards the bet.

the only difference to the results if is he just has kings, where you can force him to fold the better hand (unless he's retarded and calls anyway). if he's got nothing, you beat him either way. there's no reason you should be calling a check-raise on the river. fold or get called, it costs you a bet either way. the benefit of checking is not risking an extra bet when you might not need to.

*Total pot:* (6.00 BB)

Spewing? When he called i thought he was drawing to a flush. On 7th street he either hit and raises so i fold. Or he missed and folds. Right logic?

its pretty hard to determine where he's at with no action until 6th street. try to take control earlier and it should make things clearer towards the end.

[BudBundy]

with the free card play here, its unlikely you're going to be first to act on 5th without a card that's a big boost to your hand. if we had improved, i lead out. things might get trickier from there.

this is a hand where i'd really want to see 6th street. it'd be a lot easier if we had raised 4th.[/b]

Free card as in ?

Hand #3479057893
7 Card Stud *High* ($1/$2), Ante $0.25, Bring-In $0.50

*3rd Street* - (1.50 SB)

bundys2: Kc Kh 7d___raises
aplistos: xx xx Qs___calls
kvetch: xx xx Ah___folds
eboat: xx xx 2h___*brings-in*___calls
bulletsuk: xx xx 3c___folds
BlueEyes: xx xx 9d___folds

*4th Street* - (4.50 SB)

bundys2: Kc Kh 7d 6c___double-raises
aplistos: xx xx Qs Jh___*checks*___calls
eboat: xx xx 2h 6h___bets___calls

*5th Street* - (5.25 BB)

bundys2: Kc Kh 7d 6c 9h___checks
aplistos: xx xx Qs Jh 6d___*checks*
eboat: xx xx 2h 6h Td___checks

*6th Street* - (5.25 BB)

bundys2: Kc Kh 7d 6c 9h 9c___*bets*
aplistos: xx xx Qs Jh 6d 8d___folds
eboat: xx xx 2h 6h Td 5d___calls

*River* - (7.25 BB)

bundys2: Kc Kh 7d 6c 9h 9c 5s___*bets*
eboat: xx xx 2h 6h Td 5d xx___calls

*Total pot:* (9.25 BB)

[LincolnK]

yes, but 2 points.

1. be careful when you use it. you don't want to bet for a free card and then end up acting first on 5th. neither one of the other guys has a particularly strong hand. you could easily end up with a better board on the next card and be first to act.

2. usually free card is for drawing hands. i wouldn't consider this a drawing hand. i'd be raising 4th and betting again on 5th. if it happens that you improve on 5th and are first to act here, its fine because you definitely should be betting it then.