Here's a few more .25/.5 limit hands from tonight, any advice is appreciated, even if you must berate me for my obviously stupid play.PokerStars 0.25/0.50 Hold'em (10 handed) converterPreflop: Hero is CO with [8d], [6d]. 5 folds, SB completes, BB checks.Not sure why I called this... I'm well aware that is junk.Flop: (4 SB) [Th], [7d], [3d] (4 players)SB bets, BB folds, MP3 folds, Hero calls.Pick up flush draw + straight draw, figure it is worth .25Turn: (3 BB) [3s] (2 players)SB bets, Hero calls.Again, still have the draws. This is marginal with 4:1 pot odds, but would you call?River: (5 BB) [9h] (2 players)SB bets, SB calls.Final Pot: 9 BBLucky me, paired board and not the nut straight, but this is an obvious raise in limit, correct?-------------------------------------------------------------PokerStars 0.25/0.50 Hold'em (10 handed) converterPreflop: Hero is SB with [As], [Ah]. 3 folds, BB calls, MP2 calls.Flop: (14 SB) [5h], [6d], [Ad] (3 players)Hero bets, BB calls.I know in the last hh I posted, I made a retarded call on the turn when I should have 3 bet with the trip Q. But seeing as how this is small bets, should I smooth call the raise in hopes of getting him to raise the turn when the bets are larger?Turn: (10 BB) [2c] (2 players)Hero bets, BB calls.River: (12 BB) [9h] (2 players)Hero bets, BB calls.Final Pot: 14 BB--------------------------------------------------------------------PokerStars 0.25/0.50 Hold'em (9 handed) converterPreflop: Hero is BB with [As], [Qh]. 1 fold, Hero checks.I don't even remember this hand that well, but I played it way too passively, no clue why. This is an obvious raise pf for value, even though nobody will fold, correct?Flop: (5.80 SB) [6s], [Ah], [Th] (5 players)Hero bets, MP3 folds, Button folds, Hero calls.MP2 limped then raises on this flop, thinking possible 2 pair or trips, does that sound reasonable?Turn: (4.90 BB) [5s] (2 players)Hero checks, MP2 bets, Hero calls.Decided to check/call this down in case of 2 pair/trips.River: (6.90 BB) [Qs] (2 players)Hero bets, MP2 calls.Well, hmm. If he had a backdoor flush, he hit. Straight possible too, but I just hit top 2. Good value bet?Final Pot: 8.90 BB------------------------------------------------------------------PokerStars 0.25/0.50 Hold'em (9 handed) converterPreflop: Hero is SB with [6d], [Jd]. 2 folds, Button calls, Hero completes, BB checks.Is this hand even worth completing the sb with 3 limpers?Flop: (5 SB) [3c], [Qd], [8d] (5 players)Hero bets, BB folds, MP1 calls, MP3 folds, Button folds.Betting on the flush draw, probably retarded?Turn: (3.50 BB) [Jh] (2 players)Hero bets, MP1 calls.Betting again on the flush draw + 2nd pair.. probably even more retarded?River: (5.50 BB) [Jc] (2 players)Hero bets, MP1 calls.Going for the flush and backdoor trips, how lovely.Final Pot: 7.50 BB-------------------------------------------------PokerStars 0.25/0.50 Hold'em (10 handed) converterPreflop: Hero is MP2 with [Qh], [Kc]. 1 fold, Button calls, SB calls, BB calls, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls.KQo.. Not the happiest hand, but is it worthy of a raise from MP with a couple limpers?Flop: (12 SB) [Ah], [Jh], [2h] (6 players)SB checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks, UTG+2 bets, Button calls, SB folds, BB folds, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 calls.2nd to last to act and checked to me. Bad to raise here?Turn: (9 BB) [6h] (3 players)UTG+2 checks, Hero checks, Button checks.At this point, I figure anyone with Kh would still be in the hand.. too weak?River: (9 BB) [5s] (3 players)UTG+2 checks, Hero bets, Button calls, UTG+2 calls.Well, no action on turn = I'm betting the river with 2nd nuts. Good value?Final Pot: 12 BB----------------------------------------------------------PokerStars 0.25/0.50 Hold'em (10 handed) converterPreflop: Hero is CO with [Kh], [Ad]. 1 fold, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, MP3 calls.Flop: (9.40 SB) [Ks], [9s], [Ts] (4 players)UTG+1 checks, MP1 checks, MP3 checks, Hero bets, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls, MP3 calls.TPTK with flushed board. Gotta raise here, right? Of course, I'd fold to any kind of real action.Turn: (6.20 BB) [3c] (3 players)MP1 checks, MP3 checks, Hero bets, MP1 calls $0.50 (All-In), MP3 calls.They check to me, good time to raise again to make straight/flush draws pay?River: (9.20 BB) [6s] (3 players, 1 all-in)MP3 checks, Hero checks.4th spade lands, I give up.Final Pot: 9.20 BBAny advice on these hands is greatly appreciated. I'm working my way through SSHE, so hopefully I won't be asking many very elementary questions, though it may seem like that to the more advanced players. Really enjoying limit though, hopefully gonna make this my summer job. I also find I don't get burnt out and tilt on it when I'm losing, like I do on NL SNGs.
a few limit hands, advice please
Started by Nutcracker, Apr 11 2005 08:53 PM
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#1
Posted 11 April 2005 - 08:53 PM
#2
Posted 11 April 2005 - 09:16 PM
PokerStars 0.25/0.50 Hold'em (10 handed) converterPreflop: Hero is CO with [8d], [6d]. 5 folds, SB completes, BB checks.Not sure why I called this... I'm well aware that is junk.obviously fold this PFFlop: (4 SB) [Th], [7d], [3d] (4 players)SB bets, BB folds, MP3 folds, Hero calls.Pick up flush draw + straight draw, figure it is worth .25raise for a free cardTurn: (3 BB) [3s] (2 players)SB bets, Hero calls.Again, still have the draws. This is marginal with 4:1 pot odds, but would you call?River: (5 BB) [9h] (2 players)SB bets, SB calls.Final Pot: 9 BBLucky me, paired board and not the nut straight, but this is an obvious raise in limit, correct?-------------------------------------------------------------PokerStars 0.25/0.50 Hold'em (10 handed) converterPreflop: Hero is SB with [As], [Ah]. 3 folds, BB calls, MP2 calls.Flop: (14 SB) [5h], [6d], [Ad] (3 players)Hero bets, BB calls.I know in the last hh I posted, I made a retarded call on the turn when I should have 3 bet with the trip Q. But seeing as how this is small bets, should I smooth call the raise in hopes of getting him to raise the turn when the bets are larger?Turn: (10 BB) [2c] (2 players)Hero bets, BB calls.River: (12 BB) [9h] (2 players)Hero bets, BB calls.Final Pot: 14 BBperfect--------------------------------------------------------------------PokerStars 0.25/0.50 Hold'em (9 handed) converterPreflop: Hero is BB with [As], [Qh]. 1 fold, Hero checks.I don't even remember this hand that well, but I played it way too passively, no clue why. This is an obvious raise pf for value, even though nobody will fold, correct?Flop: (5.80 SB) [6s], [Ah], [Th] (5 players)Hero bets, MP3 folds, Button folds, Hero calls.MP2 limped then raises on this flop, thinking possible 2 pair or trips, does that sound reasonable?threebet this each and everydayTurn: (4.90 BB) [5s] (2 players)Hero checks, MP2 bets, Hero calls.Decided to check/call this down in case of 2 pair/trips.ugh. weak/tight. You have TP2K. bet this bad boyRiver: (6.90 BB) [Qs] (2 players)Hero bets, MP2 calls.Well, hmm. If he had a backdoor flush, he hit. Straight possible too, but I just hit top 2. Good value bet?it'd be absolutely wrong to checkFinal Pot: 8.90 BB------------------------------------------------------------------PokerStars 0.25/0.50 Hold'em (9 handed) converterPreflop: Hero is SB with [6d], [Jd]. 2 folds, Button calls, Hero completes, BB checks.Is this hand even worth completing the sb with 3 limpers?yup. you have enough players in the pot if you hit for you to get paid offFlop: (5 SB) [3c], [Qd], [8d] (5 players)Hero bets, BB folds, MP1 calls, MP3 folds, Button folds.Betting on the flush draw, probably retarded?this is fine. you need to pump this pot somehowTurn: (3.50 BB) [Jh] (2 players)Hero bets, MP1 calls.Betting again on the flush draw + 2nd pair.. probably even more retarded?River: (5.50 BB) [Jc] (2 players)Hero bets, MP1 calls.Going for the flush and backdoor trips, how lovely.Final Pot: 7.50 BBworks-------------------------------------------------PokerStars 0.25/0.50 Hold'em (10 handed) converterPreflop: Hero is MP2 with [Qh], [Kc]. 1 fold, Button calls, SB calls, BB calls, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls.KQo.. Not the happiest hand, but is it worthy of a raise from MP with a couple limpers?Flop: (12 SB) [Ah], [Jh], [2h] (6 players)SB checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks, UTG+2 bets, Button calls, SB folds, BB folds, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 calls.2nd to last to act and checked to me. Bad to raise here?if it weren't a monotoned board then a raise isn't bad, but honestly I'd consider calling so you can get some extra bets in with the 2nd nut flush draw and a gutshot broadwayTurn: (9 BB) [6h] (3 players)UTG+2 checks, Hero checks, Button checks.At this point, I figure anyone with Kh would still be in the hand.. too weak?yes. why would you not bet if you made your hand?River: (9 BB) [5s] (3 players)UTG+2 checks, Hero bets, Button calls, UTG+2 calls.Well, no action on turn = I'm betting the river with 2nd nuts. Good value?yippity yupFinal Pot: 12 BB----------------------------------------------------------PokerStars 0.25/0.50 Hold'em (10 handed) converterPreflop: Hero is CO with [Kh], [Ad]. 1 fold, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, MP3 calls.Flop: (9.40 SB) [Ks], [9s], [Ts] (4 players)UTG+1 checks, MP1 checks, MP3 checks, Hero bets, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls, MP3 calls.TPTK with flushed board. Gotta raise here, right? Of course, I'd fold to any kind of real action.Turn: (6.20 BB) [3c] (3 players)MP1 checks, MP3 checks, Hero bets, MP1 calls $0.50 (All-In), MP3 calls.They check to me, good time to raise again to make straight/flush draws pay?River: (9.20 BB) [6s] (3 players, 1 all-in)MP3 checks, Hero checks.4th spade lands, I give up.Final Pot: 9.20 BBgood check. flop bet, fine. turn bet, fine. river check, fine. see a pattern here
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#3
Posted 11 April 2005 - 09:45 PM
You didn't need to post all of these.Please see wrto's post about posting one at a time.Anyway, First hand fold PF and dont post it!Second hand, do you really have a question about this?Third hand, raising AQo from the BB when limped to you is a good idea! Three betting the flop when you spike an ace is even a better idea.Bet the turn.I really hate betting this flop after you limped with two overpairs out there and four other players. Your fold equity here isn't as good as you think. I think KDawg is incorrect in advising you to bet this flop.On the turn you have a weak flush draw and third pair. Check/fold.Huh?
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he said take a hit. hold your breath and i'll dunk your head. then when you wake up, you'll be high as hell and born again.
- The Hold Steady
he said take a hit. hold your breath and i'll dunk your head. then when you wake up, you'll be high as hell and born again.
- The Hold Steady
#4
Posted 12 April 2005 - 06:53 AM
Hand one is fine. His betting all the way down indicates an already made hand as opposed to a draw, and his call on the river means I think you're good (As he'd 3-bet something like a full house).Hand 2: No, 3-bet the flop. The problem with hitting a set of aces is that there will ALWAYS be SOME form of a straight draw out there (Some more reasonable to expect your opponent to be holding than others, obviously). Here, there's a flush draw as well, so he could well be raising to try for a free river card.Hand 3: Raise that pre-flop, but you know that already. Building the pot in this case is fine, as you stand to be good when you hit. Flop looks good, two-pair or a set seems likely; he could also have something like bottom pair and a flush draw. Of course, AK is also possible, as I've seen people limp with it before. River is good, too..put it this way: If that card helped him, he was certainly not betting like he needed it.Hand 4: Some people say to complete with any two suited cards, so that looks good. I like the bet on the draw, too (Most people won't put you on the draw if it does hit). Looks fine all-around.Hand 5: I play KQ like I play AJ or AT--raise if I'm the first one to do so, fold it if it's been raised before me. I actually like the flop raise to see if you can pick up where you're at, but you have to continue that by betting the turn to see if anyone has Kh. What would you have done had button bet the turn? River bet is fine.Hand 6 looks good...again, betting to see where you're at with the intention of folding to heat.
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