XXEddie 0 Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 First off, Zach(or any other mod) dont delete this, Ill explain later.Apparently, everybody on this site but me pwns at poker but me so I would like some help. I play on stars undar KevinJA8 However you would like is fine. If you want me to watch you and ask questions thats fine. If you wanna stake me in MTTs/SnGs/Cash thats fine. I generally play every starting from when i get home from work(11pm-12am est usually) an finish latr at about 5-6am est. I just need some help. I dont excatly plan on be a pro poker player, I mainly play for fun, but I still want to win, losing just plain sucks in my opinion. For any stakes you give me I will give back stake + 50% of winnings like usual. Any help at all would be nice. PM me here if you can help, thanks.Ok now Zach, and any other mods, I know its against forum rules to ask for a stake but that not excatly what I am asking for. Its not like I am asking for someone to send me X amount of money and thats it. All im asking is that IF someone does help what I would like the setup to be is that they contact me and say 'Hey, there is a $3.30 MTT that starts in an hour, hop in that and Ill watch you' and they send me $3.30So if you want to teach me, please PM me. My sn on stars once again is KevinJA8, if you wanna search me under sharkscope or thepokerdb, go ahead. Ill tell you know they are not very impressive, and the only reason my sharkscope is that high is cause I won an $11, and a $22 180 SnG in like my first 80 games. Thanks Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 We have forum rules?Also, it's a misconception that everyone here is good at poker. I haven't won **** in 2 months. Link to post Share on other sites
aucu 3 Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 With all these stakaments going on you should be able to get a piece of the action.gl Link to post Share on other sites
CobaltBlue 662 Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 Eddie, what poker literature have you read? Link to post Share on other sites
navybuttons 16 Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 Also, it's a misconception that everyone here is good at poker. I haven't won **** in forever. Link to post Share on other sites
aucu 3 Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 Eddie, what poker literature have you read?Good starting question.If you havn't read all the basics like HOH, TOP, THFAP, SS ,,,,,, a couple of times you need to. Link to post Share on other sites
Abbaddabba 0 Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 You really dont have to ever read a book.The only book i read was HEFAP, and i dont think it really helped much if at all.I like to think im at least somewhat successful at cards.Your time would be as well spent writing a book as reading one.WHo needs credentials? Every idiot is looking for an easy way to win at poker, might as well sell them a placebo.Priorities should be:Get started on a site that offers good benefitsBe selective about which games you play inThink critically about why you're betting/raising/calling/foldingIn that order. Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 You really dont have to ever read a book.The only book i read was HEFAP, and i dont think it really helped much if at all.I like to think im at least somewhat successful at cards.Priorities should be:Get started on a site that offers good benefitsBe selective about which games you play inThink critically about why you're betting/raising/calling/foldingIn that order.K, check, check, and check.What's next?I do all of that and still get ***-raped for 2 months... Link to post Share on other sites
Abbaddabba 0 Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 Doing well doesnt mean having a specific BB/100. Doing well means making money.You're up money. Despite having had what you probably consider to be one of your worst stretches ever.What's the problem again? Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 Doing well doesnt mean having a specific BB/100. Doing well means making money.You're up money. Despite having had what you probably consider to be one of your worst stretches ever.What's the problem again?I'm not up money in March.And every day I lose more and more.My problem is in the last 4 weeks or so, my benefits don't come close to making up for what I lose at the tables. Link to post Share on other sites
Abbaddabba 0 Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 Most people have bad months. Im just the exception to the rule. Link to post Share on other sites
XXEddie 0 Posted March 9, 2007 Author Share Posted March 9, 2007 Eddie, what poker literature have you read?SS2I have a big problem staying concentrated while im reading a book, its just so ****ing boring Link to post Share on other sites
qyayqi 12 Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 my gf doesn't particularly like reading texts, but she finished gordon's books & is reading HoH1&2 and she has no immediate plans to turn pro. if you're looking for mentoring but say you can't be bothered to learn, who will want to take you on? Link to post Share on other sites
Naked_Cowboy 0 Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 SS2I have a big problem staying concentrated while im reading a book, its just so ****ing boringIf a book on the topic you claim to be interested in cannot hold your attention, then there is zero to negative chance that you have the patience to be a good player long term. Quite frankly, I predict zero people interested in what you're asking. Why would someone give you money and help you out when you can't even be bothered to try and improve your game on your own? It's a borderline insulting request. If even after that small verbal thrashing, you still want to improve, then take it upon yourself first. Start looking into books. "Invest" and read them, critically. If you still think you have a leak, post hands here where you get lost or think you made a mistake. Read other people's strat posts. If you do all that, and show honest effort into improving, this is a great place for people to help you find a leak. If you're not willing to do those things, don't try and feign interest in playing seriously. Link to post Share on other sites
XXEddie 0 Posted March 10, 2007 Author Share Posted March 10, 2007 If a book on the topic you claim to be interested in cannot hold your attention, then there is zero to negative chance that you have the patience to be a good player long term. Quite frankly, I predict zero people interested in what you're asking. Why would someone give you money and help you out when you can't even be bothered to try and improve your game on your own? It's a borderline insulting request. If even after that small verbal thrashing, you still want to improve, then take it upon yourself first. Start looking into books. "Invest" and read them, critically. If you still think you have a leak, post hands here where you get lost or think you made a mistake. Read other people's strat posts. If you do all that, and show honest effort into improving, this is a great place for people to help you find a leak. If you're not willing to do those things, don't try and feign interest in playing seriously.stop highlighting half of my point.I said i have problems concentrating when i am READING A BOOK. Reading is boring to me, hence why i have trouble staying concentrated, poker is not. Even thought its a book on poker, its still a book.And your right, i havent tried to help my own cause....because ive only be playing online for the past year and a half. Link to post Share on other sites
Naked_Cowboy 0 Posted March 10, 2007 Share Posted March 10, 2007 stop highlighting half of my point.I said i have problems concentrating when i am READING A BOOK. Reading is boring to me, hence why i have trouble staying concentrated, poker is not. Even thought its a book on poker, its still a book.And you're completley missing my point. You're asking someone to put forth significant effort to help you improve your game when you won't leave your happy little bubble and do something you consider boring to improve on your own. Link to post Share on other sites
XXEddie 0 Posted March 10, 2007 Author Share Posted March 10, 2007 And you're completley missing my point. You're asking someone to put forth significant effort to help you improve your game when you won't leave your happy little bubble and do something you consider boring to improve on your own.Id rather learn by having someone teach me than reading a book. Basically because if someone does teach me, we can discuss hands 1-on-1. Can you do that with a poker book? Link to post Share on other sites
bdc30 0 Posted March 10, 2007 Share Posted March 10, 2007 I know what you're trying to do, and believe me, I'd love to do the same thing.Getting somebody to teach you AND stake you though will be impossible.If you were PAYING someone (like steve7stud's deal from before) and supplying your own bankroll, that's one thing, but to ask them to invest in AND educate you I think is a little much. Link to post Share on other sites
kkot 0 Posted March 10, 2007 Share Posted March 10, 2007 but to ask them to invest in AND educate you I think is a little much.Especially if there is very little chance that they will get a return, or even their original investment back. And if the staker would get a return on his investment, it would likely be too small to make it worth the investment. If you factor in the time the staker would put into this as well it becomes even less attractive. Link to post Share on other sites
aucu 3 Posted March 10, 2007 Share Posted March 10, 2007 stop highlighting half of my point.I said i have problems concentrating when i am READING A BOOK. Reading is boring to me, hence why i have trouble staying concentrated, poker is not. Even thought its a book on poker, its still a book.And your right, i havent tried to help my own cause....because ive only be playing online for the past year and a half.Wow, being a good reader is a basic life skill, most enjoy it. Get with it. Link to post Share on other sites
aucu 3 Posted March 10, 2007 Share Posted March 10, 2007 Id rather learn by having someone teach me than reading a book. Basically because if someone does teach me, we can discuss hands 1-on-1. Can you do that with a poker book?The strat forums are a great substitute for this. Link to post Share on other sites
SpiderGuard 0 Posted March 18, 2007 Share Posted March 18, 2007 Your odds of getting help would be higher if you weren't expecting a stake in a $3.30 tournament. I can see some people being willing to sweat your cards, but not at a cost to them. Why not provide your own buyin for the $3.30? Link to post Share on other sites
NickTheKid 0 Posted March 19, 2007 Share Posted March 19, 2007 Id rather learn by having someone teach me than reading a book. Basically because if someone does teach me, we can discuss hands 1-on-1. Can you do that with a poker book?It's not about discussing "hands" 1on1, all HANDS are different, there are THEORIES that books cover. If you want lessons on hands 1 on 1, you guys might be there for a while, going through all the combinations of different hands that can occur in a poker game.Secondly, I'm not surprised to see a post like this from you Ed. Please put your own money towards some literature or buy ins. Link to post Share on other sites
pokerinc 0 Posted March 22, 2007 Share Posted March 22, 2007 harrington on holdem has a thousand hands that you'll basically be discussing w/ the man if you read through them. All those problems are awesome. Read that. It's simple and broken up by constant hands to work through w/ the author. Very good place to start.And I agree, I could see someone sweating you, but paying you and sweating you? Are you a hot chick or something? Link to post Share on other sites
hblask 1 Posted March 22, 2007 Share Posted March 22, 2007 If you don't have pokertracker, get it. Then, instead of playing for two hours, play for one hour and then go through your hands one by one in pokertracker. Look at the hands that you made money and the hands you lost money. At each decision point in the hand, figure out what you were thinking, whether you were right, was there any way you could've behaved differently at that point with the information you had at the time, and, if you could've seen their cards at each decision point, would you have done anything differently (which is a different question than how you'd behave without knowing their cards).Once you've done that, you may find 2 or 3 hands where you say "hmmm, I don't know the answer." Post it to the appropriate forum and pay close attention to the responses.I guarantee if you do this, you will improve faster than having an occasional coach. Maybe if you could get a full-time coach that would be better, but anyone qualified to be a full-time coach can make more money playing than they could by coaching you.Try the above for one month. It's a small committment for a lifetime of playing.(PS: I'm not saying it's the ONLY way to get good, but it is extremely cost effective, and will work amazingly well.) Link to post Share on other sites
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