fleung22 1 Posted March 6, 2007 Share Posted March 6, 2007 It's obviously personal opinion but I was talking about this with some friends while drinking too much on Sunday. We all agreed on the which one we liked best but I've heard the exact opposite before and my buddies were doing the AINEC bit.I won't say which one I like the best yet as not to skew the poll.If it's been done before...well, sucks for you then. B) fleung Link to post Share on other sites
Jadaki 1 Posted March 6, 2007 Share Posted March 6, 2007 Kind of a hard choice. I picked Gladiator because I like the setting more than Braveheart. Link to post Share on other sites
digitalmonkey 929 Posted March 6, 2007 Share Posted March 6, 2007 I picked Braveheart. It's not even close IMO. Link to post Share on other sites
BigDMcGee 3,367 Posted March 6, 2007 Share Posted March 6, 2007 I agree that It's braveheart, and it's not even close. I know I give braveheart a good razzing in the forums, but it is a rather enjoyable epic movie.. a little long, a few too many "dramatic" scenes, a little too fast and easy with historical facts, but still it's a fun movie. And brutal violence, if that's your cup of tea, and it sure is mine.Gladiator has a few things going against it. One, its absurd. The plot does not suspend my disbelief. Two it's starting Russel "the most overrated actor in hollywood" crowe. I think he has Kostner level of lack of emotional and dramatic range. I think he's particularly bad in this movie. His oscar winning performance just leads me to believe that the oscars are proably a rigged and bribe filled travesty. 3. The gladiator scenes were good, but they followed an anticlimactic arch. The best one was the first, the chariot scene. An absolute spectacle, one of the most amazing fight scenes on film. The next one was the tiger scene, also a very good scene. The third was against the champion gladiator. Fairly ho-hum fight scene compared to the two previous. The final scene was against the emperor, and it was terrible. Not even a fight scene, really. I think, if you're making an action movie ( and this certainly is a action movie, because the drama of the movie is ludicrous and banal), then you have to build the action, you have to make each fight scene better than the one before it ( with the exception of perhaps starting off with a bang, then bringing it down, and slowly building up to a cresendo.) the action has to get better. If you shoot your wad with the first fight scene, and slowly get worse, well, that's just bad directing. I don't think this debate is even close, braveheart ftw. Link to post Share on other sites
SuitedAces21 2,741 Posted March 6, 2007 Share Posted March 6, 2007 Both excellent films. But I prefer Braveheart. Link to post Share on other sites
fleung22 1 Posted March 6, 2007 Author Share Posted March 6, 2007 I agree that It's braveheart, and it's not even close. I know I give braveheart a good razzing in the forums, but it is a rather enjoyable epic movie.. a little long, a few too many "dramatic" scenes, a little too fast and easy with historical facts, but still it's a fun movie. And brutal violence, if that's your cup of tea, and it sure is mine.Gladiator has a few things going against it. One, its absurd. The plot does not suspend my disbelief. Two it's starting Russel "the most overrated actor in hollywood" crowe. I think he has Kostner level of lack of emotional and dramatic range. I think he's particularly bad in this movie. His oscar winning performance just leads me to believe that the oscars are proably a rigged and bribe filled travesty. 3. The gladiator scenes were good, but they followed an anticlimactic arch. The best one was the first, the chariot scene. An absolute spectacle, one of the most amazing fight scenes on film. The next one was the tiger scene, also a very good scene. The third was against the champion gladiator. Fairly ho-hum fight scene compared to the two previous. The final scene was against the emperor, and it was terrible. Not even a fight scene, really. I think, if you're making an action movie ( and this certainly is a action movie, because the drama of the movie is ludicrous and banal), then you have to build the action, you have to make each fight scene better than the one before it ( with the exception of perhaps starting off with a bang, then bringing it down, and slowly building up to a cresendo.) the action has to get better. If you shoot your wad with the first fight scene, and slowly get worse, well, that's just bad directing. I don't think this debate is even close, braveheart ftw.I enjoyed both movies but I LOVE Braveheart. I think Gladiator seemed more one dimensional. As cool as the fight scenes were in Gladiator that's about the only place where there could be a debate for me. Outside of that, Braveheart was a had more going for it whether it was love, revenge, male bonding, or freedom. The King of England was much more evil than Commodus.I don't share your dislike for Russel Crowe but I liked his Bud character from LA Confidential more than Maximus.Interestingly enough there's a large number of Gladiator fans who didn't care much for Braveheart and I'm curious as to what aspects they found so charming. Maybe it's the genre or the recreation of the great arena. Link to post Share on other sites
SBriand 4 Posted March 6, 2007 Share Posted March 6, 2007 Braveheart. I think Gladiator was one of the most overrated movies in recent history. Link to post Share on other sites
Mercury69 3 Posted March 6, 2007 Share Posted March 6, 2007 I went with Braveheart, because I'm of Scottish heritage, not because I like Mel Gibson or any of the phony bs in the movie. Link to post Share on other sites
showstopper24 0 Posted March 6, 2007 Share Posted March 6, 2007 i just watched gladiator this weekend, and i really like. braveheart was ok but i liked gladiator more. and i guess i really don't like gibson either (but i still would like galdiator even if gibson was in it) Link to post Share on other sites
Jadaki 1 Posted March 6, 2007 Share Posted March 6, 2007 but i still would like galdiator even if gibson wasn't in galdiatorLucky for you Gibson wasn't in Gladiator... Link to post Share on other sites
digitalmonkey 929 Posted March 6, 2007 Share Posted March 6, 2007 Lucky for you Gibson wasn't in Gladiator...Yes, but was he in Galdiator? Link to post Share on other sites
fleung22 1 Posted March 6, 2007 Author Share Posted March 6, 2007 Yes, but was he in Galdiator? LOL Jadaki was the BA and you were the ZING!but seriously, what do you Gladiator fans like so much about the movie?hmm...I just thought of something. Tell me which you like and tell me if you are an only child or have siblings. Link to post Share on other sites
king_tanner 84 Posted March 6, 2007 Share Posted March 6, 2007 I picked Braveheart even though I love Gladiator, I disagree with Russel Crowe not being a good actor. I liked Beautiful Mind, Cinderella Man, and LA Confidential to name a few. Too many scenes in Braveheart though that were awesome. Maybe if there was more throat slitting in Gladiator I'd pick it. Link to post Share on other sites
Jadaki 1 Posted March 6, 2007 Share Posted March 6, 2007 but seriously, what do you Gladiator fans like so much about the movie?I found the story more entertaining because I am just fascinated by anything dealing with that period and place in history. It's why I like the HBO series Rome... etc etc. I like Braveheart, it's a great movie but for me it's purely the setting that separates the two.Oh and 3 sisters 1 brother. Link to post Share on other sites
mbreon 0 Posted March 7, 2007 Share Posted March 7, 2007 Braveheart. I think Gladiator was one of the most overrated movies in recent history.Amen. Link to post Share on other sites
powerpoker 0 Posted March 7, 2007 Share Posted March 7, 2007 I found the story more entertaining because I am just fascinated by anything dealing with that period and place in history. It's why I like the HBO series Rome... etc etc. I like Braveheart, it's a great movie but for me it's purely the setting that separates the two.Oh and 3 sisters 1 brother.i have to agree with you here, i picked gladiator and its still one of my favorite movies to this day. I think the setting and time period in which it took place are much more intresting to me (also a big fan of rome on HBO by the way). Both movies had great battle scenes i just prefer gladiator type movies and shows.only child Link to post Share on other sites
princeof56k 0 Posted March 7, 2007 Share Posted March 7, 2007 While I like both movies, I voted for Gladiator.I cant really say a specific reason why other than Gladiator is the one I watch more frequently. I just seem to enjoy it more. I liked the way Ridley Scott portrayed the grand scale of Rome and the atmoshpere in the Colosseum. And I liked the character and performance of Russel Crowe in Gladiator more than Mel Gibson in Braveheart. Link to post Share on other sites
iveyfan30 0 Posted March 7, 2007 Share Posted March 7, 2007 braveheart Link to post Share on other sites
gkunit20 1 Posted March 7, 2007 Share Posted March 7, 2007 Gladiator was so much better than Braveheart. Link to post Share on other sites
CrackofmyACE 1 Posted March 7, 2007 Share Posted March 7, 2007 I picked Braveheart. It's not even close IMO. Link to post Share on other sites
IQCrash 1 Posted March 7, 2007 Share Posted March 7, 2007 Braveheart. AINEC. Link to post Share on other sites
socalpoker_j 1 Posted March 7, 2007 Share Posted March 7, 2007 Braveheart. AINEC.QFMFT. Link to post Share on other sites
rogerwilco 0 Posted March 7, 2007 Share Posted March 7, 2007 Both movies suck. If I want to watch a brainless Hollywood action-movie I'd rather watch one that doesn't take itself so damn ****ing serious and pretends to do have any connection with historic reality. Link to post Share on other sites
digitalmonkey 929 Posted March 7, 2007 Share Posted March 7, 2007 Both movies suck. If I want to watch a brainless Hollywood action-movie I'd rather watch one that doesn't take itself so damn ****ing serious and pretends to do have any connection with historic reality.Steven Seagal fan? Link to post Share on other sites
Suited_Up 2 Posted March 7, 2007 Share Posted March 7, 2007 I found the story more entertaining because I am just fascinated by anything dealing with that period and place in history. It's why I like the HBO series Rome... etc etc. I like Braveheart, it's a great movie but for me it's purely the setting that separates the two.Plus Joaquin Phoenix plays a great douchebag!Really though, It's hard for me to pick one. I prefer the Roman setting as well, but I also think that Braveheart was actually the better movie. Tough choice. I'd rather sit through Gladiator though. Movies are weird like that. Link to post Share on other sites
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