A Limp Raise With Aks

[David_Nicoson 1]

Live 2/5. 6-handed.BB is hero with 1,200. Reputation is tight. UTG is LAG with 550.CO is aggressive preflop and c-bets. He tends to call down on other streets when he's the caller preflop. 1,400.Button is relatively tight. 2,000PreflopUTG straddles to 10. UTG+1 folds. CO calls. Button calls. SB folds.Hero calls with A K . UTG raises to 40. CO calls. Button calls. Hero raises to 240 UTG calls. Others fold.Flop (560)Q 5 9 :spade:Hero ?I'm having trouble with the betting sizing preflop. Depending on who calls, I can put myself into an awkward spot on the flop with different raise sizes. I'm pretty confident that AK is the best hand here, but I don't want to go completely nuts for the whole stack.UTG's range is something like any ace, KJ, KQ, any pair, any suited connector or 1- or 2- gapper.Edit: This is his raising range. His range after calling the 200 is tighter. Thanks Acid Knight.

[simo_8ball 1]

If I'm reading it right, villain has $310 left. Put it in.I like how you played it preflop.

[Acid_Knight 2]

Well, I don't mind the move, although I think the raise was a bit too big preflop honestly, since you're trying to rep AA or KK usually.You have 2 problems. 1. You got called2. You missed the flopBoth of those problems seems to be erased by the fact that you raised half of his stack preflop and have an easy shovel here on the flop. If he had a hand like JJ, then he might fold here, but I'd expect to get called. What you're really hoping for is that he has AK and dumps it, which seems to be a likely holding for him. All in all, your problems are solved because he doesn't have enough chips to affect you anymore so just push and hope for the best.

[Acid_Knight 2]

UTG's range is something like any ace, KJ, KQ, any pair, any suited connector or 1- or 2- gapper.

His range should not be this large IMO. I know that you've been playing with him, but calling half of your stack with anything but a fairly respectable hand is pretty retarded. I would not expect him to turn over a suited connector type hand here.

[simo_8ball 1]

Well, I don't mind the move, although I think the raise was a bit too big preflop honestly

It's about a pot sized raise which I don't think is an overbet. We are out of position against 3 players, and there is a fair amount in the pot already. I think raising smaller asks for trouble.

[David_Nicoson 1]

His range should not be this large IMO. I know that you've been playing with him, but calling half of your stack with anything but a fairly respectable hand is pretty retarded. I would not expect him to turn over a suited connector type hand here.

You're absolutely correct. I meant to say that was his raising range. It's tighter after the call, maybe KJ+, AT+, 88+.

[Scott3705 0]

Obviously before your decision, but why did you just call the straddle preflop? Extra money in the pot w/ the straddle, 2 late position limpers equals opening for a raise preflop in my book. Once you get to the flop, I guess it's an automatic shovel to fold a pair and an AK, but what do you think villian is able to put you on at this point with the goofy preflop action. Depending on his hand reading ability and how you were playing certain hands at the time, you look like you're on an all out bluff. Would you think of LR preflop with AA in a straddled hand out of the big blind?

[dms26 3]

Live 2/5. 6-handed.BB is hero with 1,200. Reputation is tight. UTG is LAG with 550.CO is aggressive preflop and c-bets. He tends to call down on other streets when he's the caller preflop. 1,400.Button is relatively tight. 2,000PreflopUTG straddles to 10. UTG+1 folds. CO calls. Button calls. SB folds.Hero calls with A K . UTG raises to 40. CO calls. Button calls. Hero raises to 240 UTG calls. Others fold.Flop (560)Q 5 9 :spade:Hero ?I'm having trouble with the betting sizing preflop. Depending on who calls, I can put myself into an awkward spot on the flop with different raise sizes. I'm pretty confident that AK is the best hand here, but I don't want to go completely nuts for the whole stack.UTG's range is something like any ace, KJ, KQ, any pair, any suited connector or 1- or 2- gapper.Edit: This is his raising range. His range after he calling the 200 is tighter. Thanks Acid Knight.

Are you expecting UTG to raise here preflop? How often will he call a big re-raise with a weak hand? I think I'd rather raise from the beginning rather than try a limp re-raise for half his stack, especially if he will call the raise with any pair. Unless he is pretty weak/tight after the flop and fold fold most pairs if he misses his set.As played I shove, you may have the best hand still and if you don't hopefully the A and K are live. You might also have some FE if he has 88 or worse.

[mk 11]

i think your hand is telegraphed pretty clearly as being something like AK/AQ/JJ/TT/99, and he can eliminate AA-QQ from your range.it's worth taking a stab, but i don't know if you can move him off TT/JJ and he isn't folding any Q.

[mvdgaag 0]

i think your hand is telegraphed pretty clearly as being something like AK/AQ/JJ/TT/99, and he can eliminate AA-QQ from your range.it's worth taking a stab, but i don't know if you can move him off TT/JJ and he isn't folding any Q.

Why eliminate AA-QQ? Do you think the opponent thinks he'd just have called with AA-QQ? I wouldn't have in this situation.

[dms26 3]

Why eliminate AA-QQ? Do you think the opponent thinks he'd just have called with AA-QQ? I wouldn't have in this situation.

Limping after a straddle and 2 limpers can't be a very good play if you have AA, and it's terrible with KK and QQ.

[mvdgaag 0]

Limping after a straddle and 2 limpers can't be a very good play if you have AA, and it's terrible with KK and QQ.

UTG straddles to 10. UTG+1 folds. CO calls. Button calls. SB folds.Hero calls with A K . UTG raises to 40. CO calls. Button calls. Hero raises to 240 UTG calls. Others fold.

He did not limp, he raised and called a reraise.

[David_Nicoson 1]

Would you think of LR preflop with AA in a straddled hand out of the big blind?

Yes, I would make the same play with AA.

[Acid_Knight 2]

He did not limp, he raised and called a reraise.

Actually, he did limp. He was in the BB and there was a straddle on. He called the straddle then reraised after the player who straddled put in a raise. Since the straddle is technically a 3rd blind, simply calling it is considered limping.

[David_Nicoson 1]

I think my preflop raise is too small. I'm out of my comfort zone a little bit here. I'm pretty sure I would've overbet the pot in a 1/2 game automatically. I pushed the flop. Villain called with K Q . I can't defend his preflop play at all here, but I think I can force a bigger error. As it was, he took 2:1 on a 3:1 shot with position. Overall he's in a reverse implied odds situation against my range and the possible flops. But I'm clearly loosing more on this particular flop than he overpaid to see the flop.It's interesting to me that people think I can't have aces here. If I raise pot straight away from the blinds with AA, then I'm playing a transparent big pair out of position against deep stacks with lots of implied odds and possible trickery. So I'd feel I'd need to overbet the pot significantly in that scenario to destroy the implied odds or just put in a small raise and play cautiously.

[7s7c 0]

I like the play a lot and it was unlucky this time. I made a similar play in a 2/5 at Borgata last weekend at a very loose table with QQ where I limped after 2 limpers knowing for certain that one of the drunks to my left would pop it to $40 or so as they had been every hand and when 2 more called the $40 I re-popped to $200...got moved in by 88 and held up. Just sayin it has lots of merit given certain circumstances as do most things in NL.

[dms26 3]

I like the play a lot and it was unlucky this time. I made a similar play in a 2/5 at Borgata last weekend at a very loose table with QQ where I limped after 2 limpers knowing for certain that one of the drunks to my left would pop it to $40 or so as they had been every hand and when 2 more called the $40 I re-popped to $200...got moved in by 88 and held up. Just sayin it has lots of merit given certain circumstances as do most things in NL.

What about when there is only 1 person left to act after you?

[mtdesmoines 2]

Yes, I would make the same play with AA.

If I catch AA on a previously identified habitual straddle-raiser, I limping AA to him.

[mtdesmoines 2]

What about when there is only 1 person left to act after you?

If it's the right aggro-tard ... then, absolutely.

[Scott3705 0]

If it's the right aggro-tard ... then, absolutely.

I don't see anywhere where we identified him as habitually Loose and aggressive preflop on his own straddle. If that's the case, than the play has merit, but how often do you think this guy just takes a free flop? LRR here w/ AA would be super super super sneaky to the point where it borders and actually crosses the line into FPS. The action is just too weird for AA, which is why I would discount you having it here and why I think a lot of players would get curiuos here if they had something with marginal showdown potential. Maybe I missed something but Preflop is just too weird.

[David_Nicoson 1]

I don't see anywhere where we identified him as habitually Loose and aggressive preflop on his own straddle.

Don't you think the range I defined implies that?

[Scott3705 0]

Don't you think the range I defined implies that?

That range isn't accounting for 50% of his possible holdings in this case, so no, I wouldn't believe that. If David N says the words, "He tends to raise PF his own straddle when limped to often," then we can say he's going to raise his straddle w/ atleast decent regularity.

[David_Nicoson 1]

That range isn't accounting for 50% of his possible holdings in this case, so no, I wouldn't believe that. If David N says the words, "He tends to raise PF his own straddle when limped to often," then we can say he's going to raise his straddle w/ atleast decent regularity.

I don't want to put to much room for interpretation in the wording.The defined range is for specifically the situation we find ourselves in: villain straddles and the field limps. That range is 31% of the hands, if I'm using pokestove correctly.

[Acid_Knight 2]

I think my preflop raise is too small. I'm out of my comfort zone a little bit here. I'm pretty sure I would've overbet the pot in a 1/2 game automatically. I pushed the flop. Villain called with K Q . I can't defend his preflop play at all here, but I think I can force a bigger error.

How big of an error do you need him to make? He had 3 outs where he can win the pot from you. You're obviously going to push any flop. If it's K high, he gets stacked. If it's Q high, you're getting stacked. If it's anything else, you're going to win the pot. I'd be happy that he's an idiot and just be patient with him.

[7s7c 0]

What about when there is only 1 person left to act after you?

Depends on how convinced I am that he'll pop and if there have been limpers in front of me to make the pot juicy for him.