11 to 1 0 Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 Citizen Kane- .... Anyway, this is an old movie made in 1941, I believe, about a very powerful man.Daniel, this is like saying "Super System is this book written thirty years ago about card games." It is considered to be the iconic American movie. This is just from Wikipedia, Citizen Kane is a 1941 mystery/drama film released by RKO Pictures and directed by Orson Welles, his first feature film. It tells the fictional story of Charles Foster Kane, a man whose fight for power in the publishing world transformed from sheer thrill-seeking to ruthless war mongering. The story is told principally in flashback, following a reporter as he seeks to find what Kane meant by his dying word: "Rosebud."Citizen Kane is widely considered to be a masterpiece by critics and viewers alike and is often cited as being one of the most innovative works in the history of film.The film's main character, Kane, is a composite of several historical individuals: newspaper magnate William Randolph Hearst, the reclusive aerospace and movie mogul Howard Hughes and the Chicago utilities magnate Samuel Insull. Upon its release, Hearst's newspapers viciously attacked it.Depicting the attacks on Welles from all sides, most especially from Hearst and the damage to his career is a movie in itself. Probably more has been written about this one film than any other film in history, American or otherwise. When in California, seek out the Hearst mansion, you can see it from the road and note the resemblance to certain scenes in the picture. The movie is especialy relevant today, or any day, as it really tells us that all the war sold to the public in the name of patriotism is just profit-motivated business for the few very powerful men who manipulate events at the global level. But more, the profits are less important than the thrill of playing God. The genius of Welles' film making techniques is usually the focus of most of the admiration directed at the movie, but you'd have to be a student of the art to really appreciate what he did and how he did it. I don't, but I am not a student of film. Of course, I'm not too bright, I thought the Asian couple on Lost was Japanese - but I'm also not a fan of the show. Link to post Share on other sites
IveyFearsMe 0 Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 Rosebudthats all i got, but the movie's main character (Charles Foster Kane) is loosley based off of William Randolph Hearst Link to post Share on other sites
chrozzo 19 Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 i didnt like it Link to post Share on other sites
mikeysong 0 Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 apparently rosebud is the rumored nickname that Hearst would use to reference his girlfriend's clit.no joke. Link to post Share on other sites
The Nuts 0 Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 Daniel did get something wrong.Kane didn't get all the money "telling it like it is". He got it by bending the truth in legitimate news stories for entertainment value. Link to post Share on other sites
GoStags92 2 Posted February 25, 2007 Share Posted February 25, 2007 A great movie with Liev Schreiber titled, "RKO 281" outlines the making of Citizen Kane. If you are a fan of Citizen Kane, you shuold go out and rent this. Excellent film with excellent acting from Schreiber, James Comwell, John Malkovich, and Roy Sheider. Link to post Share on other sites
Balloon guy 158 Posted February 26, 2007 Share Posted February 26, 2007 When Citizen Kane first came out it was mega hyped because it was going to bring down Hearse.It flopped at the box office.Now they call it iconic.Okay Link to post Share on other sites
BigDMcGee 3,367 Posted February 26, 2007 Share Posted February 26, 2007 When Citizen Kane first came out it was mega hyped because it was going to bring down Hearse.It flopped at the box office.Now they call it iconic.OkayMega hyped in a way.. but Hearst didn't review or advertise Kane in it's newpapers, which, at the time, were pretty much the mass media way of getting the word out about the movie. Hearst's objections to the movie hurt it tremendously. RKO 281 covers alot of that story. You know you've made a great movie when they make a movie about the making of that movie. How Po Mo is that ? (Malavich was also in another one of those, called "Shadow of the Vampire" a fictional account of the making of Nosferatu.)Also, Kane didn't "flop" at the box office, as is commonly reported. It was the 6th highest grossing film of that year, despite the Heart Boycott, and was nominated for the Academy award. It just didn't do as well at the time as it has from a historical sense.So pretty much your whole post is wrong. Link to post Share on other sites
Balloon guy 158 Posted February 26, 2007 Share Posted February 26, 2007 Mega hyped in a way.. but Hearst didn't review or advertise Kane in it's newpapers, which, at the time, were pretty much the mass media way of getting the word out about the movie. Hearst's objections to the movie hurt it tremendously. RKO 281 covers alot of that story. You know you've made a great movie when they make a movie about the making of that movie. How Po Mo is that ? (Malavich was also in another one of those, called "Shadow of the Vampire" a fictional account of the making of Nosferatu.)Also, Kane didn't "flop" at the box office, as is commonly reported. It was the 6th highest grossing film of that year, despite the Heart Boycott, and was nominated for the Academy award. It just didn't do as well at the time as it has from a historical sense.So pretty much your whole post is wrong.Wow you whine alotYou of course are right again, you are always right. It's a waste of my time to have an opinion, I will just wait for you to tell me how it is.Did I tell you I bought a new Navigator. Link to post Share on other sites
BigDMcGee 3,367 Posted February 26, 2007 Share Posted February 26, 2007 Wow you whine alotYou of course are right again, you are always right. It's a waste of my time to have an opinion, I will just wait for you to tell me how it is.Did I tell you I bought a new Navigator.I whine alot? What in that post is whining..If you want to personally dismiss Kane, have at it. You can have any opinion you want. But statements like "Mega hyped" and "Flopped at the box office" are just false. Link to post Share on other sites
Balloon guy 158 Posted February 26, 2007 Share Posted February 26, 2007 It's got most of the options. I didn't get the Nav system since I have aportable one. And the last car I had had a DVD but it never got used so I skipped it. Link to post Share on other sites
BigDMcGee 3,367 Posted February 26, 2007 Share Posted February 26, 2007 It's got most of the options. I didn't get the Nav system since I have aportable one. And the last car I had had a DVD but it never got used so I skipped it.What has that got to do with anything? I know in OC arguments are usually won by whom has the biggest car, but in the rest of the world, we like to use logic. Link to post Share on other sites
Balloon guy 158 Posted February 26, 2007 Share Posted February 26, 2007 I am probably going to disengage the auto running boards since I am kind of tall and don't really need it. It's really cool though when you open the door and the running boards come out at you.Funny thing is, this is my work car. Link to post Share on other sites
BigDMcGee 3,367 Posted February 26, 2007 Share Posted February 26, 2007 I am probably going to disengage the auto running boards since I am kind of tall and don't really need it. It's really cool though when you open the door and the running boards come out at you.Funny thing is, this is my work car.Well, congratulations. It's a shame money can't buy taste. Link to post Share on other sites
Balloon guy 158 Posted February 26, 2007 Share Posted February 26, 2007 I know, but luckily I have all this stuff to console me for having no taste. Link to post Share on other sites
BigDMcGee 3,367 Posted February 26, 2007 Share Posted February 26, 2007 I know, but luckily I have all this stuff to console me for having no taste.and yet none of it will make Citizen Kane a flop. Link to post Share on other sites
Balloon guy 158 Posted February 27, 2007 Share Posted February 27, 2007 and yet none of it will make Citizen Kane a flop. Despite all the publicity, the film was a box office flop and was quickly consigned to the RKO vaults. At 1941's Academy Awards the film was booed every time one of its nine nominations was announced. It was only re-released for the public in the mid-1950s. LinkBut then again what does IMDb know that you don't?Who could have guessed that a box office flop, losing the already-bankrupt production company one hundred fifty thousand dollars, would become the single film that critics praise above all others? Another linkWonder if all these tasteless people drive big cars too?goggle citizen kane flop if you want the other 95,600 other hits that disagree with your opinion. Link to post Share on other sites
akoff 0 Posted February 27, 2007 Share Posted February 27, 2007 "Wonder if all these tasteless people drive big cars too?"Will be in the market come spring for new transportation. I don't take care of my truck so i was thinking about going the Tahoe route...what color leather did you get? Link to post Share on other sites
Balloon guy 158 Posted February 27, 2007 Share Posted February 27, 2007 "Wonder if all these tasteless people drive big cars too?"Will be in the market come spring for new transportation. I don't take care of my truck so i was thinking about going the Tahoe route...what color leather did you get?Kind of an off white, the wood trim is the darker one. The lighter wood seemed too girly.It had cool seats, the AC pumps directly through the seat. I hope global warming hurries up, I want to try them out on a really hot day! Link to post Share on other sites
donk4life 34 Posted February 28, 2007 Share Posted February 28, 2007 Rosebudthats all i got, but the movie's main character (Charles Foster Kane) is loosley based off of William Randolph HearstI like the Simpson's episode called "Rosebud"... It was about Mr. Burns finding his bear Bobo, great episode.. Great movie.. I love television Link to post Share on other sites
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