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[ajs1281]

Here is the deal, down to final 23 of a decent MTTest payouts as we run23-18, $7517-10 $1509 $2251st $3000Blinds 3/6k I am in 7th with about 75k, avg 40k, CL at table 90kCL is button while im BB and has stolen from me last 3 orbitsDealt JJ in BB, folded to button who makes it 18to go, (his standard steal), i pop it back to 36k, he calls.Flop2, 6, q rainbowWhat do you do from here???

[Swift_Psycho]

Don't pop it back so weakly pre-flop, did you actually expect him to fold? Either flat call pre-flop (still not crazy about this) or move in( :pray: ), nothing in between. Since you didn't, on this flop I move in.

[gobears]

If he's stolen from you in the past three rounds; I would have re-raised him all-in with your Jacks pre-flop.Since you didn't, there is now $72K in the pot and you have $39K left. I would fire out all-in at this point and hope that he didn't catch a queen. If he had QQ, KK or AA, then he would have re-raised you all-in preflop so I think that you're most likely ahead after the flop.

[Ebonwoulfe]

If you think that he's more likely to try to steal again w/o a Q if you check to him but he is likely to call with a Q if you bet it all, then by all means check it to him. Otherwise any bet will commit you anyway. If you were ahead preflop, you're probably still ahead on this flop. You're committed. This pot makes you leader if you win. I think the only card you really worry about on this flop is an A. Try to win, and if he caught the Q or has AA or KK... oh well.

[DwayneWayne]

call or all-in.

[Mr Monkey]

U had to move all in. I dont like calling at all. And forsure raising with out going all in is the worst of all. If he has AA,KK,QQ,Ak he will probably reraise and u would have to call. If he had AA,KK,QQ u were probably going to lose all your chips anyway. At least if u raise all in if he doesnt have 1 of those hands he would probably fold. After the flop u had to move all in. U just have to hope your play didnt allow him to catch a queen.

[Nutcracker]

Definately an all-in or fold preflop, depending on if you want to win or just make more money. Min raise gives hands like KQ or suited connectors a chance to beat you cheaply.And there's nothing else you can do but all in on this flop. If 2 overs came, you could possibly lay it down, but not with just the Q out there. All in and pray.

[TJ_Eckleburg]

Not to gang up on you like everyone else that's posted thus far...But you decided to move all in when you raised just half your chips. Sadly, you made it a low enough raise that he'd probably call with anything that he raised with. Now it's time to make a 40k chip bet that he didn't flop a Q, or that you were already behind preflop.Yet another reason why I hate jacks.

[Swift_Psycho]

XXEddie said:

DwayneWayne said:

call or all-in.

call what?theres is not bet to him

When someone raises, you have the option to call.

[looshle]

You aren't defending your BB, you have a premium hand. All in preflop.

[Swift_Psycho]

XXEddie said:

^^^^^^^where is this raise??? cant call a bet that not there?

Oh, you're referring to post-flop, aren't you? The "call" is referring to pre-flop when it was raised to the OP in the BB. Everyone is talking about what to do pre-flop (because that is where the mistake really is), not post-flop.

[AK33]

You CAN NOT be afraid of the queen in this situation, you know you could have ANYTHING at this point, if you don't reraise all in preflop, push with this flop, no question. What was the result?

[JimmyWellington]

Your preflop raise was way too low. Like everyone else said, your only play before the flop was all in.

[ajs1281]

Alright here is my thinking in the hand and what happened.My min raise back at him was trying to get him to put me on a blind protect and have him come over me preflop all in, didnt work out. Thats the reason i didnt go all in pre-flop, plus my 39k left if an A hits the flop if he justcalls preflop lets me get away with an avg chipstack.I went all in on the flop, he flipped 1010, i held up, finished in 3rd.Just wanted to hear some ideas on this, usually i like to leave myself outs, and the situation of being able to get away on a flop of AKx with an avg chipstack was why i didnt push all in preflop. I also KNOW that i cant check thatflop and give him another shot at his ace if he has it, but the thought of letting him try to take it again is tempting. I guess I have the faith that I could play back from 40k on a bad flop for me.