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[cubsfan44]

RDog, on Tuesday, January 29th, 2008, 5:34 PM, said:

Instead of assuming Villain has scare cards, we have to bet like we do. By him just calling this flop I would almost always put him on a mid pair. That turn still isn't folding out 7's (obv), 8's, 9's, 10's. He isn't floating this flop with K high or Q high......the only time an Ace, King or Queen would hit his range is if he didn't 3 ball you pre with AK or AQ, which isn't often. Our range is much more likely to be those cards than his.

Ok I can see your point with the A,K, or Q but 55,66,88,99, and most likely 1010 fold to my 2nd barrel there like everytimeedit: villian was like 27/6 btw

[chgocubs99]

RDog, on Tuesday, January 29th, 2008, 7:34 PM, said:

Instead of assuming Villain has scare cards, we have to bet like we do. By him just calling this flop I would almost always put him on a mid pair. That turn still isn't folding out 7's (obv), 8's, 9's, 10's. He isn't floating this flop with K high or Q high......the only time an Ace, King or Queen would hit his range is if he didn't 3 ball you pre with AK or AQ, which isn't often. Our range is much more likely to be those cards than his.

Good stuff...thank you for explaining it without being arrogant about it.

[Ex_Matt]

chgocubs99, on Tuesday, January 29th, 2008, 5:36 PM, said:

LOLThe turn bet is retarded regardless of his two cards.That means it's "baffling"?

Yes. I'm baffled by his play. The hand just made 0 sense. I cant put him on clubs with that dumbass river bet either.

[cubsfan44]

Ex_Matt, on Tuesday, January 29th, 2008, 5:40 PM, said:

Yes. I'm baffled by his play. The hand just made 0 sense. I cant put him on clubs with that dumbass river bet either.

Its a blocker bet....Worked well toothe turn bet that is

[chgocubs99]

Ex_Matt, on Tuesday, January 29th, 2008, 7:40 PM, said:

Yes. I'm baffled by his play. The hand just made 0 sense. I cant put him on clubs with that dumbass river bet either.

LOLThe river bet is retarded, the turn bet is retarded, blah blah blahRetarded does not equal baffling...it equals retarded.Moving along.

[RDog]

cubsfan44, on Tuesday, January 29th, 2008, 5:38 PM, said:

Ok I can see your point with the A,K, or Q but 55,66,88,99, and most likely 1010 fold to my 2nd barrel there like everytimeedit: villian was like 27/6 btw

A 27/6 might fold 55/66 but I don't think they are folding 88/99/1010. And we aren't folding out a Jack. He didn't get his 27/6 by mistake, he got it because he likes to use the call button.

[cubsfan44]

RDog, on Tuesday, January 29th, 2008, 5:43 PM, said:

A 27/6 might fold 55/66 but I don't think they are folding 88/99/1010. And we aren't folding out a Jack. He didn't get his 27/6 by mistake, he got it because he likes to use the call button.

interesting. Thanks

[Snamuh]

RDog, on Tuesday, January 29th, 2008, 8:37 PM, said:

Instead of assuming Villain has scare cards, we have to bet like we do. By him just calling this flop I would almost always put him on a mid pair. That turn still isn't folding out 7's (obv), 8's, 9's, 10's. He isn't floating this flop with K high or Q high......the only time an Ace, King or Queen would hit his range is if he didn't 3 ball you pre with AK or AQ, which isn't often. Our range is much more likely to be those cards than his. Basically we want to be double barreling and triple barreling boards that change and even moreso boards that change and hit hands likely in our range.

Yes. This is why you double barrel overs as scare cards. It makes it difficult to call with a lot of his flop calling range and they are cards that certainly fall into our preflop raising range. It's one of the many reasons to c-bet these flops in position, that there are many different turn cards that we can profitably bet again.

[bull62]

cubsfan44, on Tuesday, January 29th, 2008, 7:30 PM, said:

IMO it is a bad beat.

I would probably file it under cooler. IMO they're different. Nitpicking now though.

[TB17]

NoSup4U, on Tuesday, January 29th, 2008, 6:03 PM, said:

Teddy's mom.Mark

eMarkSwartz says:That you haven't responded to my Teddy's mom post in the challenge thread is tilting me!!!

[RDog]

TB17, on Tuesday, January 29th, 2008, 5:55 PM, said:

eMarkSwartz says:That you haven't responded to my Teddy's mom post in the challenge thread is tilting me!!!

LMAO....AEJoooooooooooooooooones!@!

[bull62]

Yayyyyyy!!!! for my new sig.

[cubsfan44]

bull62, on Tuesday, January 29th, 2008, 5:57 PM, said:

Yayyyyyy!!!! for my new sig.

Picture of Mark would be much better IMO

[RDog]

bull62, on Tuesday, January 29th, 2008, 5:57 PM, said:

Yayyyyyy!!!! for my new sig.

LOL.

[a__thekevlar__2]

anything wrong with my play here?Full Tilt Poker, $3/$6 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 PlayersLeggoPoker.com Hand History ConverterHero (BTN): $1,228.60SB: $823.10BB: $669UTG: $1,206.40CO: $600Pre-Flop: 6h 5h dealt to Hero (BTN)UTG raises to $21, CO folds, Hero raises to $72, 2 folds, UTG calls $51Flop: ($153) 5s 2s Kc (2 Players)UTG checks, Hero bets $120, UTG calls $120Turn: ($393) 7d (2 Players)UTG checks, Hero bets $270, UTG calls $270River: ($933) Tc (2 Players)UTG checks, Hero bets $766.60 and is All-In

[RDog]

a__thekevlar__2, on Tuesday, January 29th, 2008, 6:16 PM, said:

anything wrong with my play here?Full Tilt Poker, $3/$6 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 PlayersLeggoPoker.com Hand History ConverterHero (BTN): $1,228.60SB: $823.10BB: $669UTG: $1,206.40CO: $600Pre-Flop: 6h 5h dealt to Hero (BTN)UTG raises to $21, CO folds, Hero raises to $72, 2 folds, UTG calls $51Flop: ($153) 5s 2s Kc (2 Players)UTG checks, Hero bets $120, UTG calls $120Turn: ($393) 7d (2 Players)UTG checks, Hero bets $270, UTG calls $270River: ($933) Tc (2 Players)UTG checks, Hero bets $766.60 and is All-In

I am a little worried about your image but assuming Villain doesn't know you are crazy as hell, I think its fine (and by fine I mean, holy shit, you are nuts but I think it works). I think Villain is gonna have QQ, JJ and spades (or maybe even he called a 3 bet with KQ?) here quite a bit and I don't think unless he has a sick read (ie, knows how crazy you are), he can call with JJ or QQ or KQ.Edit: You are crazy as **** though.

[king1305]

cubsfan44, on Tuesday, January 29th, 2008, 8:59 PM, said:

Picture of Mark would be much better IMO

Those are so 4 hours ago.

[GrinderMJ]

RDog, on Tuesday, January 29th, 2008, 11:32 PM, said:

I am a little worried about your image but assuming Villain doesn't know you are crazy as hell, I think its fine (and by fine I mean, holy shit, you are nuts but I think it works). I think Villain is gonna have QQ, JJ and spades here quite a bit and I don't think unless he has a sick read he can call with any of them.Edit: You are crazy as **** though.

Idk, about QQ/JJ. I think it's prob 99 or something

[RDog]

GrinderMJ, on Tuesday, January 29th, 2008, 6:40 PM, said:

Idk, about QQ/JJ. I think it's prob 99 or something

Possible too but I think QQ and JJ probably just call this 3 bet pre that deep. Which is why I think they are more likely.

[a__thekevlar__2]

GrinderMJ, on Tuesday, January 29th, 2008, 8:40 PM, said:

Idk, about QQ/JJ. I think it's prob 99 or something

lololololol