BudBundy 0 Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 CryptologicPot Limit Omaha Ring gameBlinds: $0.50/$110 playersConverterStack sizes:UTG: $92UTG+1: $93.25Hero: $99MP1: $277.42MP2: $17MP3: $190.49CO: $17Button: $48.50SB: $39BB: $19.25Pre-flop: (10 players) Hero is UTG+2 with 9 J 7 J UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, Hero calls, 2 folds, MP3 calls, 3 folds, 3 folds, BB checks.Flop: T 4 8 ($4.5, 4 players)BB checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $4, MP3 raises to $16.5, 2 folds, Hero calls.Turn: 3 ($37.5, 2 players)Hero checks, MP3 bets $37.5, Hero ? Link to post Share on other sites
Whiskey16 1 Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 I think it's a fold. If your opponent doesn't have clubs, then I think you're still at best drawing to 12 outs, many of which may be blocked. Link to post Share on other sites
simo_8ball 1 Posted February 14, 2007 Share Posted February 14, 2007 Pretty easy fold. Link to post Share on other sites
JacKingOff_suit 0 Posted February 16, 2007 Share Posted February 16, 2007 Ditto above.You have the most PE on the flop but it disappears on the turn. You are OOP so you may not have the implied odds. Link to post Share on other sites
navybuttons 16 Posted February 16, 2007 Share Posted February 16, 2007 Ditto above.You have the most PE on the flop but it disappears on the turn. You are OOP so you may not have the implied odds.agree. BTW, i like having you here. Link to post Share on other sites
ahosang 0 Posted February 16, 2007 Share Posted February 16, 2007 BudBundy, why do you bet like this on the flop? Link to post Share on other sites
BudBundy 0 Posted February 17, 2007 Author Share Posted February 17, 2007 BudBundy, why do you bet like this on the flop?For both value and deception i guess.Does it look bad? Link to post Share on other sites
Head_Trauma 0 Posted February 17, 2007 Share Posted February 17, 2007 Is it ridiculous to repot on the flop? I was curious what our equity would be against villain's range. Assuming he repots and we get it all in... If he's on a set with no redraw or a weak redraw, we are nearly exactly 50% to win. If he's on a set with a good redraw (esp one with an open ender) we could have as low as 30% equity. Against top two with a weak redraw, we have about 60-65% equity. Against top two with a strong redraw (J9 and two backdoor flush draws) we have 47% equity.Against this range, repotting is fairly marginal I think. But then again, our raise might make him fold a hand like bottom set or top two, right? Link to post Share on other sites
BudBundy 0 Posted February 17, 2007 Author Share Posted February 17, 2007 Is it ridiculous to repot on the flop? I was curious what our equity would be against villain's range. Assuming he repots and we get it all in... If he's on a set with no redraw or a weak redraw, we are nearly exactly 50% to win. If he's on a set with a good redraw (esp one with an open ender) we could have as low as 30% equity. Against top two with a weak redraw, we have about 60-65% equity. Against top two with a strong redraw (J9 and two backdoor flush draws) we have 47% equity.Against this range, repotting is fairly marginal I think. But then again, our raise might make him fold a hand like bottom set or top two, right?MP3 have us covered i don't think he'd be shy to push hard with a good hand. I don't think re-potting here would be a good idea. On turn if the board pairs we are always getting away from our hand but if we hit is he always folding his set? I think seeing turn > re-popping flop. Link to post Share on other sites
Head_Trauma 0 Posted February 17, 2007 Share Posted February 17, 2007 MP3 have us covered i don't think he'd be shy to push hard with a good hand. I don't think re-potting here would be a good idea. On turn if the board pairs we are always getting away from our hand but if we hit is he always folding his set? I think seeing turn > re-popping flop.Good point, though I think in general we are not getting paid off well when we draw out of position... Link to post Share on other sites
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