A Different Line

[BudBundy 0]

CryptologicPot Limit Omaha Ring gameBlinds: $0.50/$110 playersConverterStack sizes:UTG: $17UTG+1: $93.35UTG+2: $99.75MP1: $42.50MP2: $100.75MP3: $20CO: $26.50Hero: $99SB: $49BB: $94Pre-flop: (10 players) Hero is Button with 6 7 T J UTG calls, 3 folds, MP2 calls, MP3 (poster) checks, CO folds, Hero calls, SB calls, BB (poster) checks.Flop: 8 2 9 ($6, 6 players)SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, MP2 bets $3, MP3 folds, Hero calls, 3 folds.Turn: 7 ($12, 2 players)MP2 checks, Hero bets $12As i mentioned in the hijacked thread i moved up to $100 PLO . I will be posting many hands as i play.I am planning to play 3/4 of my hands in positions (Late , CO and B). Only the MONSTERS from early position.****When we come to this hand , with double suited board ; is it a better line to check?What if he check-raises , are we folding / calling / pushing? (I lean towards folding since we aren't commited much and its -EV since at most we are chopping)What if we pot , he calls , a scare card come on river (any flush card and T , J and Q) , he bets 10 on river. Do we call?

[Wingman008 0]

Weren't you playing at $200 a few months ago?I think a check raise is a call with a call pf, I do not think he has a high enough hand made to warrant a c/r.If a scare card does come out on the river. I think it is a pretty easy fold if he bets out large or c/r

[BudBundy 0]

Nah I ve never played 200$. I will one day tho!!

[simo_8ball 1]

is it a better line to check?

No. We have the nuts. Make villain pay to outdraw us.

What if he check-raises , are we folding / calling / pushing? (I lean towards folding since we aren't commited much and its -EV since at most we are chopping)

We call IMO. We could even bluff off another JT if he seems weak on a scary river (if say the board pairs and he checks or leads 1/4 pot).

What if we pot , he calls , a scare card come on river (any flush card and T , J and Q) , he bets 10 on river. Do we call?

Definitely. Maybe raise if you think it's a sign of weakness.

[JacKingOff_suit 0]

>> is it a better line to check?Of course not. But I will bet about $9 instead of potting. You are telling the whole world you've made teh straight on the turn. While your hand is bettable on the turn, it may not be on the river. By betting 3/4 of the pot you are confusing your villain as if you are drawing or having the nuts or playing your position so you may get a free checking on the river when it scares the nuts out of you.>> What if he check-raises , are we folding / calling / pushing? (I lean towards folding since we aren't commited much and its -EV since at most we are chopping)That's why you don't want to pot the turn. I will still call if c/r'd because there are many different reasons that he's playing back on you.>> What if we pot , he calls , a scare card come on river (any flush card and T , J and Q) , he bets 10 on river. Do we call? Call, but this is more a read-dependent question.

[JacKingOff_suit 0]

Here's a hand I just played and it's how I bet with my nuts on the flop. I've been active and talked trash on the table. But anyway UTG sucks (and sucked out on me before but gave back to the others. ...) PokerStars Pot-Limit Omaha High, $4 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FCP)saw flop|saw showdownBB ($286.55)UTG ($243.50)Hero ($347)CO ($218.05)Button ($394)SB ($100)Preflop: Hero is MP with Q , 8 , 4 , 9 . UTG raises to $14, Hero calls $14, 2 folds, SB calls $12, BB calls $10.Flop: ($56) J , 7 , T (4 players)SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $28, SB raises to $86, BB folds, UTG calls $86, Hero raises to $324, UTG calls $143.50 (All-In).Turn: ($695.50) 6 (3 players, 1 all-in)River: ($695.50) 6 (3 players, 1 all-in)Final Pot: $695.50Results in white below: SB has Ac Qh Kh 8h (one pair, sixes). Outcome: Hero wins $695.50. UTG: shows [Ad Ks Td 9s] (two pair, Tens and Sixes)Look, if I potted the flop, the result could be very different.Welcome to 6-max.

[BudBundy 0]

I see. Not potting seems to confuse opponents.