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#1 rivercardbandit

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Posted 05 April 2005 - 06:18 PM

I know I have leaks in my game, actually, gaping holes. When looking at your hand histories and analyzing your game, what do you look for? I've done well enough to get from $9 to $75 playing limit only following the 300bb rule. Over the last two days, I'm down about $10. I realize some of that is due to variance, but I absolutely positive it is also due to poor play on my part, it's just identifying those parts is where I need assistance.I'm pretty confident in my pre-flop game, it's post-flop where I believe the majority of my problems exist. I didn't post hand histories because I don't really think anyone wants to pour over loads of data, which why I pose the question of what to look for.Thanks in advance.bandit out.

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Posted 05 April 2005 - 06:35 PM

Buy Poker Tracker and look through all the hands you lost alot of money with, I usually find some where I think to myself "What the heck was I thinking"

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Posted 05 April 2005 - 06:40 PM

Poker Tracker is on my "to-do" list as soon as I clear my bonus on Pacific. I'd just buy the darn thing, but the wife's van needed brakes and I had some dental work done, so extra money outside my bankroll is non-existent at the moment.

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Posted 05 April 2005 - 07:16 PM

Post all the hands you have problems on, and give as much advice on poker as possible. Get in on strategy convorsations, you will never know if you're right or wrong in one way of thinking until someone proves otherwise.

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Posted 05 April 2005 - 07:26 PM

wrto, what happened to your links to the blog? Are you still doing the blog enjoyed reading it...thx

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Posted 05 April 2005 - 07:55 PM

Here's a few. The first one I think I played correctly, the second and third hand I think I gave up on too quickly. The fourth, should I have laid it down?PokerStars 0.05/0.10 Hold'em (10 handed) converterPreflop: rvrcrdbandit is Button with [Kh], [Qh]. 4 folds, MP2 calls, MP3 calls.Flop: (9 SB) [Jh], [7h], [6c] (4 players)SB checks, MP2 bets, MP3 calls, rvrcrdbandit calls, SB calls.Turn: (6.50 BB) [Ah] (4 players)SB checks, MP2 checks, MP3 checks, rvrcrdbandit bets, SB folds, MP2 calls, MP3 folds.River: (8.50 BB) [6h] (2 players)MP2 checks, rvrcrdbandit bets, MP2 calls.Final Pot: 10.50 BBResults in black below: MP2 has 7s 7d (full house, sevens full of sixes). rvrcrdbandit has Kh Qh (flush, ace high). Outcome: MP2 wins 10.50 BB. PokerStars 0.05/0.10 Hold'em (8 handed) converterPreflop: rvrcrdbandit is MP1 with [Ah], [Qh]. UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, rvrcrdbandit raises, BB calls, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls.Flop: (10.40 SB) [6c], [8s], [7c] (5 players)BB checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, rvrcrdbandit checks, Button bets, BB calls, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, rvrcrdbandit folds.Turn: (7.20 BB) [Qc] (4 players)BB checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, Button bets, BB calls, UTG folds, UTG+1 folds.River: (9.20 BB) [7s] (2 players)BB checks, Button bets, BB folds.Final Pot: 10.20 BBResults in black below: Button doesn't show. Outcome: Button wins 10.10 BB. PokerStars 0.05/0.10 Hold'em (10 handed) converterPreflop: rvrcrdbandit is UTG with [As], [Qs]. rvrcrdbandit raises.Flop: (11 SB) [6s], [8c], [Qc] (5 players)SB bets, MP3 calls, CO folds, Button folds, SB calls.Turn: (8.50 BB) [Kc] (3 players)SB bets, rvrcrdbandit folds, MP3 folds.Final Pot: 9.50 BBResults in black below: No showdown. SB wins 9.50 BB. PokerStars 0.05/0.10 Hold'em (7 handed) converterPreflop: rvrcardbandit is MP1 with [7s], [As]. UTG calls, rvrcardbandit calls, MP2 calls, CO calls, Button calls, SB completes, BB checks.Flop: (7 SB) [5c], [6h], [8d] (7 players)SB checks, BB checks, UTG bets, rvrcardbandit calls, MP2 calls, CO calls, Button calls, SB calls, BB calls.Turn: (7 BB) [4h] (7 players)SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, rvrcardbandit bets, MP2 folds, CO calls, Button calls, SB folds, BB calls, UTG calls.River: (12 BB) [8c] (5 players)BB checks, UTG checks, rvrcardbandit bets, rvrcardbandit calls, CO calls, BB calls.Final Pot: 20 BBResults in black below: BB has 6d 4s (two pair, eights and sixes). UTG has 8h 8s (four of a kind, eights). rvrcardbandit has 7s As (straight, eight high). CO has 5s 6s (two pair, eights and sixes). Outcome: UTG wins 20 BB.

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Posted 05 April 2005 - 08:06 PM

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wrto, what happened to your links to the blog? Are you still doing the blog enjoyed reading it...thx
Yes, but for some reason my signature hasn't been showing up.Here is a linkTo the OP, raise the flop with KhQh, you have an equity edge...not in this case, but you were unlucky. Raise it. Betting the turn and river was good.AhQh you could call on the flop profitably and fold the turn UI. You are getting 14-1 on your money, pretty easy peel, imo.AsQs I would look him up (could be convinced otherwise, but the pot is big and a small percentage of the time you have the best hand and half of the time you are drawing live).
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Posted 05 April 2005 - 08:11 PM

Thanks wrto, I appreciate the analysis.

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Posted 05 April 2005 - 08:14 PM

rivercardbandit said:

Thanks wrto, I appreciate the analysis.
No problem. But next time don't post results.EDIT: You'll get results oriented responses. Someone might say to not bet the river with you flush because the board paired (Which is silly) because they seen someone had a full house.
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Posted 05 April 2005 - 08:16 PM

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rivercardbandit said:

Thanks wrto, I appreciate the analysis.
No problem. But next time don't post results.
Ok, but why not? Just curious.

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Posted 05 April 2005 - 08:19 PM

rivercardbandit said:

wrto4556 said:

rivercardbandit said:

Thanks wrto, I appreciate the analysis.
No problem. But next time don't post results.
Ok, but why not? Just curious.
I edited my post and gave a reason. You'll get result oriented responses. It's best to tell the results after the thread has died down and everyone gave their analysis.
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Posted 05 April 2005 - 10:05 PM

when in doubt, raise and type in a smiley face

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Posted 06 April 2005 - 02:02 AM

I post my answers for two reasons: 1) Since I'm usually right, it just confirms what wrto and others are saying. 2) If I'm wrong, it helps ME understand leaks in my game. There's far too many hands for me to post all of them, so I leach onto other posts to make sure I play it right, too.And as wrto said, yeah don't post hand results. PokerStars 0.05/0.10 Hold'em (10 handed) converterPreflop: rvrcrdbandit is Button with [Kh], [Qh]. 4 folds, MP2 calls, MP3 calls.Flop: (9 SB) [Jh], [7h], [6c] (4 players)SB checks, MP2 bets, MP3 calls, rvrcrdbandit calls, SB calls.Turn: (6.50 BB) [Ah] (4 players)SB checks, MP2 checks, MP3 checks, rvrcrdbandit bets, SB folds, MP2 calls, MP3 folds.River: (8.50 BB) [6h] (2 players)MP2 checks, rvrcrdbandit bets, MP2 calls.Final Pot: 10.50 BBI like the smoothcall on the flop. Reraising only pushes the SB out maybe, you risk being three bet by the MP2, and you don't know if anyone is on the same flush draw as you, except they might have the A.And on the turn you find out you've got the nuts. Good strong play.PokerStars 0.05/0.10 Hold'em (8 handed) converterPreflop: rvrcrdbandit is MP1 with [Ah], [Qh]. UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, rvrcrdbandit raises, BB calls, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls.Flop: (10.40 SB) [6c], [8s], [7c] (5 players)BB checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, rvrcrdbandit checks, Button bets, BB calls, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, rvrcrdbandit folds.Turn: (7.20 BB) [Qc] (4 players)BB checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, Button bets, BB calls, UTG folds, UTG+1 folds.River: (9.20 BB) [7s] (2 players)BB checks, Button bets, BB folds.Final Pot: 10.20 BBAs soon as you checked that flop, the button will automatically bet at it. Infact, i've noticed as soon as you check it, the very next guy will bet at it no matter what. Your check screams Big Ace miss. and now, even if you hit your hand, people know you check flops when you miss because someone will inevitably call you down to see your hand.I don't mind the fold here, actually. The flop was somewhat dangerous, you can bet nearly everyone had a draw- flush, OESD, or they already paired and are hoping for some love. Once you showed weakness, it seemed to be over.The question you have to ask yourself.. if you had saw that queen, how would you have played that turn? Check, let the button bet again, wait for a reraise to signal the flush? Or bet into the button and see if he reraises for the flush?PokerStars 0.05/0.10 Hold'em (10 handed) converterPreflop: rvrcrdbandit is UTG with [As], [Qs]. rvrcrdbandit raises.Flop: (11 SB) [6s], [8c], [Qc] (5 players)SB bets, MP3 calls, CO folds, Button folds, SB calls.Turn: (8.50 BB) [Kc] (3 players)SB bets, rvrcrdbandit folds, MP3 folds.Final Pot: 9.50 BBResults in black below: No showdown. SB wins 9.50 BB. Good flop reraise to isolate. I assume MP3 calling two bets cold is on a flush draw usually- which, I guess in this case, is wrong. Damn fish.I dunno.. his lead out here bugs me. With the aggression shown on the flop, I never read that as a flush draw. I thik he's betting trying to push someone off of something. Any KQ would've check raised that, and I'd think the same with the flush. I'd call it down. wrto, is this a leak of mine? lolPokerStars 0.05/0.10 Hold'em (7 handed) converterPreflop: rvrcardbandit is MP1 with [7s], [As]. UTG calls, rvrcardbandit calls, MP2 calls, CO calls, Button calls, SB completes, BB checks.Flop: (7 SB) [5c], [6h], [8d] (7 players)SB checks, BB checks, UTG bets, rvrcardbandit calls, MP2 calls, CO calls, Button calls, SB calls, BB calls.Turn: (7 BB) [4h] (7 players)SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, rvrcardbandit bets, MP2 folds, CO calls, Button calls, SB folds, BB calls, UTG calls.River: (12 BB) [8c] (5 players)BB checks, UTG checks, rvrcardbandit bets, rvrcardbandit calls, CO calls, BB calls.Final Pot: 20 BBI don't mind the call with the OESD + Over. Wish there were a spade on the board though. Tons of callers hoping to hit the gutshot on the river,which misses. I dunno.. I reraise UTG here and see what he does. I think I raise too much on the river without the nuts.Anyway, those are my thoughts, wrong or wrong.
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Posted 06 April 2005 - 06:47 PM

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Buy Poker Tracker and look through all the hands you lost alot of money with, I usually find some where I think to myself "What the heck was I thinking"
Absolutely. Poker Tracker and PlayerView (or GT) have really improved my game for the better.(PlayerView allows you to display realtime opponent stats for Party Skins).




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