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Posted 03 March 2007 - 10:03 PM

wow, randy couture absolutely owned Slyvia. he seriously owned him, that wasn't even close. GG randy u kicked some serious ass.
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Posted 03 March 2007 - 11:07 PM

View PostKDawgCometh, on Saturday, March 3rd, 2007, 10:03 PM, said:

wow, randy couture absolutely owned Slyvia. he seriously owned him, that wasn't even close. GG randy u kicked some serious ass.
loved every minute of it. Sylvia exposed for the bum he is, way to go Randy
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Posted 03 March 2007 - 11:55 PM

View Postol, on Saturday, March 3rd, 2007, 11:07 PM, said:

loved every minute of it. Sylvia exposed for the bum he is, way to go Randy
i thought sylvia was taking too much of a boxing approach to mma by "outpointing" people and couture saw that and knew if he came in and was agressive he could win, gg Randy

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Posted 04 March 2007 - 01:32 PM

View PostKDawgCometh, on Saturday, March 3rd, 2007, 10:03 PM, said:

wow, randy couture absolutely owned Slyvia. he seriously owned him, that wasn't even close. GG randy u kicked some serious ass.
you saw the potential more than most in this thread, as I recall.Great card.I think withiin 30 seconds, Silvia said "I have prepared/trained/strategized all wrong for this fight. I'm screwed"

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Posted 04 March 2007 - 04:33 PM

View PostActuary, on Sunday, March 4th, 2007, 3:32 PM, said:

you saw the potential more than most in this thread, as I recall.
yup, pretty much. I should've reposted my thoughts on this from the last UFC thread. The fact is, Slyvia had never been up against a guy that had Randy's level of grappling. Slyvia was able to deal with monson because monson is short. But Randy is 6'3" and was an olympian in Greco Roman wrestling, that is a massive difference in how good of a grappler one is. Also let us not forget that Frank Mir broke Slyvia's arm. Slyvia has had problems against guys that are over 6' that have great takedown and submission skills. The reason that Slyvia beat Ricco Rodriguez is that Rodriguez blew out his knee on his first shot and it was like shooting fish in a barrell for Slyvia due to that. If you look at all of the guys Slyvia has beaten, they are generally strikers. Slyvia is a very ordinary fighter who's greatest benefit is his height
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Posted 27 March 2007 - 08:10 AM

huge news today from espn.com -- any thoughts?Source: UFC buys Pride for less than $70MAssociated PressNEW YORK -- The majority owners of Ultimate Fighting Championship have agreed to buy their biggest mixed martial arts rival, Pride Fighting Championships, in a deal that will establish megafights among the outfits' titleholders and possibly attract huge pay-per-view audiences."This is really going to change the face of MMA. Literally creating a sport that could be as big around the world as soccer. I liken it somewhat to when the NFC and AFC came together to create the NFL." -- Lorenzo Fertitta, one of UFC's majority ownersCompany executives declined to comment on the sales price, but a person familiar with the negotiations told The Associated Press that brothers Lorenzo and Frank Fertitta will purchase the Japan-based Pride for less than $70 million. The person was not authorized to speak to reporters and spoke on condition of anonymity.The deal was completed Tuesday and was announced during a news conference in Tokyo, where Lorenzo Fertitta has been negotiating with Nobuyuki Sakakibara, the majority owner and chief executive of Dream Stage Entertainment Inc., Pride's owner."We have been talking to Pride for probably about 11 months," Lorenzo Fertitta said. "It's been a long, drawn-out process but we finally were able to put the two brands together."To buy the company, the brothers created a new entity called Pride FC Worldwide Holdings LLC. The newly formed company will take over Pride assets, including its trademarks, video library and valuable roster of fighters, from Dream Stage. The Fertitta brothers, who own Las Vegas-based Zuffa LLC, the parent company of UFC, intend to keep the well-known Pride name and promote fights under that brand.The acquisition marks a new phase in the brothers' quest to dominate the burgeoning world of mixed martial arts since they bought the struggling UFC in 2001."This is really going to change the face of MMA," Lorenzo Fertitta said. "Literally creating a sport that could be as big around the world as soccer. I liken it somewhat to when the NFC and AFC came together to create the NFL."The deal allows the Fertitta brothers to broker the biggest MMA fights possible in the near future, increasing their influence in this sports entertainment business."We will be able to literally put on the fights that everyone wants to see," Lorenzo Fertitta said. "It will allow us to put on some of the biggest fights ever."In the past, there has been at least one case in which Pride and UFC couldn't hammer out a deal to put their top fighters in the ring together. With Pride in their pocket, the Fertitta brothers intend to ensure that never happens again.The sale gives Pride more financial backing to expand the business internationally after suffering a recent financial blow.Major sponsor Fuji Television Network Inc. dropped Pride in June after a tabloid linked Pride to the Japanese mob -- something Sakakibara has denied vigorously. To help bolster Pride, the company staged two PPV fights in Las Vegas. Neither was a financial success. The fights gained exposure for Pride but lost money, making the sale of Pride more likely."I think it certainly weakened their position," Lorenzo Fertitta said. "One of our goals is to get back on a major platform back here in Japan."Lorenzo Fertitta said he'll be looking to expand Pride internationally.Buying Pride is the latest in a series of acquisitions that the brothers have made in the last six months. Zuffa snapped up World Extreme Cagefighting and World Fighting Alliance last year.Similar to Pride, buying WFA gave UFC the rights to a popular fighter named Quinton "Rampage" Jackson. Jackson will face UFC's most popular fighter, Chuck Liddell, the current light heavyweight champ in Las Vegas, on May 26 on PPV.In the combat world, the Pride deal leaves a fragmented group of upstarts and K-1, another Japanese company that promotes fighters skilled in various forms of kick boxing.Thanks to a surge in popularity, the brothers' investment in UFC and MMA in general has begun to pay off.Last year, UFC cracked $200 million in PPV revenue, putting it on par with World Wrestling Entertainment Inc.UFC stages fights in arenas across the country and airs a clutch of successful television shows on Spike TV. It has also opened an office in London, looking toward establishing itself internationally.The brothers also run Station Casinos Inc. in Las Vegas. Lorenzo Fertitta is president and Frank Fertitta is chairman and chief executive of Station Casinos, a public company that was recently agreed to be purchased by a private equity investor group that includes key members of the Fertitta family. Copyright 2007 by The Associated Press
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Posted 27 March 2007 - 09:05 AM

absolutely incredible news, now wondering who the best is between pride and UFC will be a reality. im excited.

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Posted 27 March 2007 - 09:07 AM

Awesome, over the next several months this will help determine who the top fighters truly are. Gonna be some amazing fight cards in our future.


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Posted 27 March 2007 - 09:45 AM

This is great news. As far as being cheap Its prolly cause most of the big name fighters were already heading to ufc. I am really excited cause its not gonna be the same names everytime theres a fight. I hope this makes it bigger then it already is. I have a question did anyone read whats gonna happen with the contract with fox that pride had. Ufc has one with spike was wondering whats gonna happen with pride and fox.
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Posted 27 March 2007 - 07:04 PM

while I certainly see some good from this, it's not all good.Dana says...Pride will adopt the same rules, so no kicking a man when he's on ground, and there are other limitations Pride does not haveFor the most part, Pride will run separately, in a ring. And a "superowl" combining fighters will occur sometimes.Oh, and quit splitting the fighters and standing them up!It's like they want ji-jitsu and other grappling to go away.I know it's a balance and many fans prefer the striking.. screw the casual fan.. I want best fighter.And, man, I can't spend $900 a yr on this!.Gotta buy the next one, several decent fightsMaybe I'll pass on the England card

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Posted 28 March 2007 - 03:22 AM

View PostActuary, on Tuesday, March 27th, 2007, 11:04 PM, said:

while I certainly see some good from this, it's not all good.Dana says...Pride will adopt the same rules, so no kicking a man when he's on ground, and there are other limitations Pride does not haveFor the most part, Pride will run separately, in a ring. And a "superowl" combining fighters will occur sometimes.Oh, and quit splitting the fighters and standing them up!It's like they want ji-jitsu and other grappling to go away.I know it's a balance and many fans prefer the striking.. screw the casual fan.. I want best fighter.And, man, I can't spend $900 a yr on this!.Gotta buy the next one, several decent fightsMaybe I'll pass on the England card
the rules thing is the only thing I can see here that is really a negative, too. and really, thats only a negative to current pride fans, but I do see the point in making universal rules. it would be too difficult to occasionally combine the two series and come up with common rules while doing so; this takes care of that.and REALLY, about that 900 bucks thing. why the hell can't they offer a season pass or something? if they're gonna run 2 damn cards a month, I really need some kind of discount. I'm gonna have to sell my car just to keep watching mma.but really though, this is spectacularly exciting.On another note: Liddell vs Rampage in UFC 71, 05/26/2007. I mean, we all knew it was gonna happen eventually, but does anybody think this is a wee bit too soon for Rampage to get a shot against Liddell? I mean 1 fight and he gets a title shot? Sure he's proved himself elsewhere, but damn. This just seems a little unfair to all the other light-heavyweight contenders out there that want a shot at getting beaten by Chuck. Oh well.

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Posted 28 March 2007 - 05:18 AM

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Posted 28 March 2007 - 05:51 PM

View PostShakeZuma, on Wednesday, March 28th, 2007, 3:22 AM, said:

but does anybody think this is a wee bit too soon for Rampage to get a shot against Liddell? I mean 1 fight and he gets a title shot? Sure he's proved himself elsewhere, but damn. This just seems a little unfair to all the other light-heavyweight contenders out there that want a shot at getting beaten by Chuck. Oh well.
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Posted 29 March 2007 - 08:30 PM

Wow, I'm really surprised at Rampage getting a shot this quickly. He looked average to a touch above average in his first fight. I'd have liked to see another bout or two (preferably against someone i've ever heard of - unlike his first match) before he got a chance at the belt.

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Posted 30 March 2007 - 03:39 AM

View Postbdc30, on Friday, March 30th, 2007, 12:30 AM, said:

Wow, I'm really surprised at Rampage getting a shot this quickly. He looked average to a touch above average in his first fight. I'd have liked to see another bout or two (preferably against someone i've ever heard of - unlike his first match) before he got a chance at the belt.
I am sure that Dana looked at it from the point of view that Rampage is the only active fighter left that has beaten Chuck in the past that Chuck did not avenge the loss. Its not like Rampage is a 20 yr old punk that just started fighting at this level.

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Posted 01 April 2007 - 08:43 AM

Ultimate Fighter Marathon today on Spike for anybody sittin around with nothing to watch.


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Posted 02 April 2007 - 01:25 PM

View PostYoda, on Sunday, April 1st, 2007, 12:43 PM, said:

Ultimate Fighter Marathon today on Spike for anybody sittin around with nothing to watch.
I would've seen this but I was too busy watching the Ultimate Fighter marathon. question though, why do they only ever show season 3 and 4? they never show 1 and 2, and those are the ones I want to see the most. bollocks.looks like season 5, which is starting Thursday (girlish yelp of "yippie"), should be a good one, getting back to the newcomers. I'm pretty stoked about that.

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Posted 03 April 2007 - 11:08 AM

All 16 fighters will be in the lightweight division. Which will either be sweet or pretty crappy. I'm not sure which yet.


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Posted 03 April 2007 - 03:40 PM

View PostYoda, on Tuesday, April 3rd, 2007, 3:08 PM, said:

All 16 fighters will be in the lightweight division. Which will either be sweet or pretty crappy. I'm not sure which yet.
really? I hadn't heard this yet. should be some scrappy little bitches in there. I think it'll end up being good.and who else is looking forward to the Sanchez/Koscheck fight more than any of the other ones? I think this is gonna be the fight of the evening.

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Posted 03 April 2007 - 07:29 PM

View PostActuary, on Wednesday, March 28th, 2007, 8:51 PM, said:

Nah, we're cool with it.Sincerely,Brandon "The Truth" VeraandDiego "Nightmare" Sanchez
eh, vera screwed himself over by thinking that he was worth more then he is before having the chance to beat slyvia
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