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[mikeysong]

Limit Holdem Ring gameLimit: $3/$65 playersConverterPre-flop: (5 players) Hero is Button with K K UTG raises, CO folds, Hero 3-bets, SB folds, BB calls, UTG caps, Hero calls, BB calls.Flop: 8 Q 7 (12.67SB, 3 players)BB checks, UTG bets, Hero raises, BB folds, UTG calls.Turn: Q (8.33BB, 2 players)UTG checks, Hero bets, UTG calls.River: 2 (10.33BB, 2 players)UTG bets, Hero ???Because I like this hand so much, I really don't want to raise here but...what a weird donkbet

[Zach6668]

Looks like villain is trying some sort of WA/WB line after the flop.He may have JJ, TT, or AK with one spade.

[psujohn]

Why raise/fold? Nothing we beat is calling and we have some showdown value. Just call it.

[CoranMoran]

I think that it's safe to say that if we raise the river and then get three-bet, we are always behind.So we won't ever be folding the best hand in the raise-fold line.It's also safe to assume that if Villain is donk-bluffing, he will always fold to our raise.So we won't gain anything from raising the river in these situations.So the equation simply comes down to:How often will he bet-call with a lesser hand? versus How often are we behind?Nothing else usually matters.

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Looks like villain is trying some sort of WA/WB line after the flop.He may have JJ, TT, or AK with one spade.

Yeah, JJ, TT are the hands we are hoping will bet-call us.There's not else that will.So determine if the odds of these hands are greater than an 22 or an oddly played Q or Flush.And then make your decision.Personally, my plan on the paired river was to get one more bet in...So even though Villain donk-bet this river for me, I count that as the bet I was planning on and just call down.--CM

[Zach6668]

CoranMoran, on Friday, February 9th, 2007, 5:36 PM, said:

Personally, my plan on the paired river was to get one more bet in...So even though Villain donk-bet this river for me, I count that as the bet I was planning on and just call down.--CM

I really like this line of thinking.I do that a lot, and try to get in a set number of bets for a certain hand, etc.