Speed Limit 0 Posted February 6, 2007 Share Posted February 6, 2007 The Flames are hanging Mike Vernon's #30 up in the rafters tonight. I'm not a big Flames fan but I remember him being huge for a while and that 1989 season was memorable. Link to post Share on other sites
chester97 0 Posted February 6, 2007 Share Posted February 6, 2007 i'll be there. should be fun. i've never been to a retirement ceremony before, and am really hoping it won't take an hour. but it should be a good time, and he deserves it around here. Link to post Share on other sites
7s7c 0 Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 Only Lanny's # is also retired in Cgy? Who else will follow? MacInnis, Nieuwendyk...? Link to post Share on other sites
fleung22 1 Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 Only Lanny's # is also retired in Cgy? Who else will follow? MacInnis, Nieuwendyk...?Gilmour's gotta be there. Gary Suter maybe? Roberts?hmm...damn shame with Theo. He should've been a shoo-in but the ghosts caught up with him. Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 Gilmour's gotta be there. Gary Suter maybe? Roberts?hmm...damn shame with Theo. He should've been a shoo-in but the ghosts caught up with him.Gary Suter the cheapshot artist? No thanks. Link to post Share on other sites
serge 904 Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 Gary Suter the cheapshot artist? No thanks.what about Joe Nieuwendyk, for sure DougieWith all due respect to Mike Vernon, I think that this number retiring is getting a little tiresome...Like the Habs wont have any numbers left soon....Mike Vernon was a great player however to have a number retired the player should be exceptional...It should be a higher honour than even the Hall of fame..Gretzky, Orr, Lemieux..Players of that calibre..not Vernon and Luc Robitaille..Just my two cents Link to post Share on other sites
chester97 0 Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 Gilmour's gotta be there. Gary Suter maybe? Roberts?hmm...damn shame with Theo. He should've been a shoo-in but the ghosts caught up with him.gilmour has no shot of having his jersey retired in calgary because of the way he left.macinnis will be next, and fleury will be someday.fleury easily got the loudest ovation of the former players who were there last night. Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 what about Joe Nieuwendyk, for sure DougieWith all due respect to Mike Vernon, I think that this number retiring is getting a little tiresome...Like the Habs wont have any numbers left soon....Mike Vernon was a great player however to have a number retired the player should be exceptional...It should be a higher honour than even the Hall of fame..Gretzky, Orr, Lemieux..Players of that calibre..not Vernon and Luc Robitaille..Just my two centsFor once, serge is actually making sense.It is getting a bit tiresome. Where do you draw the line?I mean, someone like Robitaille should be a no brainer for the Kings, Vernon, I don't know too much about, but he would make sense.People like Gilmour, I don't think so, Nieuwendyk? No way.Just because someone spent a bunch of years on the team during some cup runs or playoff runs doesn't mean the numbers should be retired. Pens should retire 44 for Robbie Brown? He did score 49 goals one year. 25 for Stevens? Tocchet, etc... Not likely. Link to post Share on other sites
digitalmonkey 929 Posted February 8, 2007 Share Posted February 8, 2007 what about Joe Nieuwendyk, for sure DougieWith all due respect to Mike Vernon, I think that this number retiring is getting a little tiresome...Like the Habs wont have any numbers left soon....Mike Vernon was a great player however to have a number retired the player should be exceptional...It should be a higher honour than even the Hall of fame..Gretzky, Orr, Lemieux..Players of that calibre..not Vernon and Luc Robitaille..Just my two centsNot Robitaille? Do less drugs! Link to post Share on other sites
gruven 530 Posted February 8, 2007 Share Posted February 8, 2007 what about Joe Nieuwendyk, for sure DougieWith all due respect to Mike Vernon, I think that this number retiring is getting a little tiresome...Like the Habs wont have any numbers left soon....Mike Vernon was a great player however to have a number retired the player should be exceptional...It should be a higher honour than even the Hall of fame..Gretzky, Orr, Lemieux..Players of that calibre..not Vernon and Luc Robitaille..Just my two cents I actually agree with you, too, serge.... It should be reserved for the best of the best. And Vernon wasn't exactly a Hall Of Famer. I also don't like the fact that they've turned a 10 minute ceremony into an hour for everyone. Believe it or not, it's because the venues realized it gives them an extra hour to vend at the concession stands..... LOL Link to post Share on other sites
digitalmonkey 929 Posted February 8, 2007 Share Posted February 8, 2007 I actually agree with you, too, serge.... It should be reserved for the best of the best. And Vernon wasn't exactly a Hall Of Famer. I also don't like the fact that they've turned a 10 minute ceremony into an hour for everyone. Believe it or not, it's because the venues realized it gives them an extra hour to vend at the concession stands..... LOLPlease tell me you're not lumping Robitaille in with Vernon like Serge did though. Link to post Share on other sites
gruven 530 Posted February 8, 2007 Share Posted February 8, 2007 Please tell me you're not lumping Robitaille in with Vernon like Serge did though. No chance. Robitaille is a future Hall of famer and deserves to have his jersey in the rafters.. Link to post Share on other sites
chester97 0 Posted February 8, 2007 Share Posted February 8, 2007 I actually agree with you, too, serge.... It should be reserved for the best of the best. And Vernon wasn't exactly a Hall Of Famer. I also don't like the fact that they've turned a 10 minute ceremony into an hour for everyone. Believe it or not, it's because the venues realized it gives them an extra hour to vend at the concession stands..... LOLvernon will, without a doubt, be in the hall of fame. 2 cups, a con smythe, 10th all time in wins, he is absolutely going to be in there. one of the reasons they retired his number, besides the many years and the stanley cup win, is that he grew up and played all of his minor hockey in calgary. he was the reason we won a cup and was the best goalie the franchise ever had up until this #34.i do agree that the ceremony takes away from the game though. it was, without a doubt, the worst game i've been to all year. the first period shots were 4-1. it was brutal. Link to post Share on other sites
digitalmonkey 929 Posted February 8, 2007 Share Posted February 8, 2007 vernon will, without a doubt, be in the hall of fame. 2 cups, a con smythe, 10th all time in wins, he is absolutely going to be in there. one of the reasons they retired his number, besides the many years and the stanley cup win, is that he grew up and played all of his minor hockey in calgary. he was the reason we won a cup and was the best goalie the franchise ever had up until this #34.i do agree that the ceremony takes away from the game though. it was, without a doubt, the worst game i've been to all year. the first period shots were 4-1. it was brutal.If I had a vote I wouldn't vote Vernon into the Hall. Link to post Share on other sites
7s7c 0 Posted February 8, 2007 Share Posted February 8, 2007 If I had a vote I wouldn't vote Vernon into the Hall.Me neither....but there are a ton of guys I would remove as well as I'm sure you would. Link to post Share on other sites
chester97 0 Posted February 8, 2007 Share Posted February 8, 2007 If I had a vote I wouldn't vote Vernon into the Hall.that's fine. but he will be going in.side note, just cause i know you're a habs fan. did you know vernon is the only goaltender with a winning record against roy over his career? thought that was interesting. Link to post Share on other sites
goose 0 Posted February 8, 2007 Share Posted February 8, 2007 No chance. Robitaille is a future Hall of famer and deserves to have his jersey in the rafters..greatest LW ever? Link to post Share on other sites
WestcoastCanuck 0 Posted February 8, 2007 Share Posted February 8, 2007 Why are people claiming Niewendyk shouldn't have his # retired by Calgary? He was absolutely feared by the Canucks (and everyone in the Smythe division) for his entire run with the Flames. The same thing goes for Gary Roberts. Link to post Share on other sites
serge 904 Posted February 8, 2007 Share Posted February 8, 2007 Please tell me you're not lumping Robitaille in with Vernon like Serge did though.Ionly lumped them together because I actually dont think Robitaille should have his number retired...I think a VERY SELECT FEW that deserve this honour...In my lifetime I can only give this honour to two players...Gretzky and Lemieux...Thats just my criteria ...I may include Yzerman,Sakic and Bourque...But thats as far as I go Link to post Share on other sites
7s7c 0 Posted February 9, 2007 Share Posted February 9, 2007 greatest LW ever?I still think Bobby Hull was. Link to post Share on other sites
digitalmonkey 929 Posted February 9, 2007 Share Posted February 9, 2007 Why are people claiming Niewendyk shouldn't have his # retired by Calgary? He was absolutely feared by the Canucks (and everyone in the Smythe division) for his entire run with the Flames. The same thing goes for Gary Roberts.By "people" you must mean Zach.Nieuwendyk belongs in the Hall of Fame, but I don't think any team should retire his number. His career was spread out over a number of teams and he played well for all of them. While he enjoyed great success in Calgary I don't think his time there warrants his number being retired. Link to post Share on other sites
fleung22 1 Posted February 9, 2007 Share Posted February 9, 2007 Why are people claiming Niewendyk shouldn't have his # retired by Calgary? He was absolutely feared by the Canucks (and everyone in the Smythe division) for his entire run with the Flames. The same thing goes for Gary Roberts.Niewendyk was a premier centre for years. People forget how great this guy used to be as a leader who could put up some points. Back-to-back 51-goal years directly followed-up by back-to-back 45-goal years. Throw in the role of a captain, 3 Stanley Cups, and a gold medal.I really love Theo but I don't see management retiring his number in fear of the message they might be sending. Rightly or wrongly he'll be remembered for the incidents at the end of his career. Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted February 10, 2007 Share Posted February 10, 2007 By "people" you must mean Zach.Nieuwendyk belongs in the Hall of Fame, but I don't think any team should retire his number. His career was spread out over a number of teams and he played well for all of them. While he enjoyed great success in Calgary I don't think his time there warrants his number being retired.I really think number retirements should be reserved for people who have spent the majority of their career with one team, with obvious exceptions of the Gretzky type.Regardless, I'm sure a case could be made for Joe, but I'm not all that up on it, so I won't argue it. Link to post Share on other sites
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