6 replies to this topic

[Ebonwoulfe]

Hmmm getting involved with ATo might not be a great first step without a raise, unless you're surrounded by weak players then go for it.Flop tptk, everyone calls a relatively small pot... weak players are great.Turn K... hmmm scary card. I think from last position you go ahead and bet. If you're ahead, you can't give a free card. If the K beat you, you'll probably learn about it now, and you can probably fold... if you're more than likely going to call a river bet, might as well use that bet now so you don't give any free cards.For the record, he was probably considering the chances of succesfully bluffing his newly acquired flush draw then decided that if he acted strong he would discourage anyone in a later position out of betting, possibly pulling a free card. As well, he feared the K would pair someone. It's a comon online tactic/tell. If someone waits a long time then checks, they're trying to discourage a bet. What does that mean? You bet. Remember that. If you take nothing else from this post, take *that*. I dunno about that river bet... you have a modestly-strong hand. No... I lied. Your river bet was fine. They've been calling all the way. If someone has a JQ or 78 or a Kx, they sure as hell played it weakly. They've called you all this way, might as well give them one last chance to call. If you were outdrawn, so be it. I think you pick up an extra bet from TJ or something and you don't run into a better hand more than half the time.I think you got called down by a T-8 or less likely 9-8 who was making a crying call because you checked the turn. Finally, if you got called by a KQ or KJ, thank your lucky stars you're in hands with players who just don't know when to bet.I think I'm delirious.

[wrto4556]

Raise ATo preflop from MP and LP. Bet the turn, dude. Why did that K scare you?raise preflop, bet the turn.

[slappy110]

i really don't like the checking the turn play. I like betting the turn then check the river for a cheap showdown. This is for a couple reasons. a) the players at that limit are much too passive and could have very easily hit the king, so if you get called on the turn, i dont think its a good spot to get one last bet in there for value with just mid pair.B) you can bet the turn not fearing that king simply because if someone out there does have the king, and chooses to raise you...you can dump pretty easily...this wouldn't necessarily be the case in ahigher game with better opponents where semibluff check raising in that spot is a possibility. At this limit, its straightforward so bet it and don't give a free card. The way I look at this, when considering 4th and 5th street, is its going to cost me 1 BB either way most often. I check the turn, and normally someone bets into and i call hoping for the best hand, OR i bet the turn then check behind on the river...hoping my 10 held up...either way, you dont have a great hand so show it down cheaply while still protecting it and not giving free cards. This is why i like betting the turn and checking the river. By the way, at .25/.50, you don't have a table image. All but MAYBE 1 of your opponents aren't gonna have the slightest clue as to the hands you typically raise with, call with, etc...so dont worry about what you look like to other players. The ONE exception is when you're getting carried away and raising every single pot. In that case, you're oponents will say to themselves...god this guys crazy! but still not make any strategic adjustments...so still, dont worry about your image.

[KDawgCometh]

raise PF, only limp with A10 if there re four people in the hand to begin with. Bet the turn. don't know how much more I can say, its kinda easy like that ya know

[Absolute]

wrto4556 said:

Raise ATo preflop from MP and LP. Bet the turn, dude. Why did that K scare you? raise preflop, bet the turn.