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[waldo]

I was wondering if you could give some sort of timeline of your progression through the limits of poker, from your $10/$20 back in canada up to your $4000/$8000.Thanks

[DanielNegreanu]

Approximate of course:4 years 10-208 months 20-404 months 40-802 years 100-2003 years 200-400/400-8001 year 1000-20006 months 2000-40006 months 4000-8000

[ddudley]

DanielNegreanu said:

Approximate of course:4 years 10-208 months 20-404 months 40-802 years 100-2003 years 200-400/400-8001 year 1000-20006 months 2000-40006 months 4000-8000

Thanks, this is one of the most useful pieces of information you have ever posted. Wow, you started at 10/20. That's huge for most of us here. I've been really struggling with the jump from 5/10 to 10/20.

[DanielNegreanu]

Well I actually started out playing $1-$5 in house games and that went on forabout 8 months also...

[ddudley]

What kind of tournaments were you playing along with these limit progressions?Can you talk a little bit about the 3 years you played 200/400 and 400/800? I heard that Phil Ivey had a big problem with getting comfortable at 400/800. I was wondering if you had trouble with that jump too.

[KDawgCometh]

Daniel, what factors made you decide to move up. What did your roll look like when you decided to make a jump. Were you playing fully rolled or did you short roll it. How did you know it was the right time to move up, especially considering a year after you made the jump from 10-20 to 20-40 you were playing high stakes limit(100-200). What makes a good 20-40 player different from a good 100-200 player and the difference between a 100-200 player from a 300-600 or higher player

[ddudley]

Anonymous said:

Daniel any reason why you spent 4 years at 10-20 and seemed to zoom through other levels. I'm guessing your skill level grew and maybe tourney wins?

I not sure but I believe that's when he lived in Toronto and that was the highest game available.

[Rocketwadster]

DanielNegreanu said:

Approximate of course:4 years 10-208 months 20-404 months 40-802 years 100-2003 years 200-400/400-8001 year 1000-20006 months 2000-40006 months 4000-8000

what about the times (if there were any) that you had to step back a level? For example, lets say you played 1000-2000 for your year, jumped up, got smoked, so you had to go back a level (or maybe even more). Does/did that ever happen? :wink:

[ArseneLupin3]

ddudley said:

Wow, you started at 10/20. That's huge for most of us here. I've been really struggling with the jump from 5/10 to 10/20.

You have to understand that this was when the canadian dollar was worth approximately 11 cents, so it was really about $1/2 us!-adam

[ddudley]

ArseneLupin3 said:

You have to understand that this was when the canadian dollar was worth approximately 11 cents, so it was really about $1/2 us!-adam

OK, maybe I'm dense, but are you serious or joking here? I don't know much about exchange rates but I thought the canadian dollar has always been worth 0.8 to 0.9 US dollars.

[pockets]

It's a joke.

[Nimbletoe]

Yeah, the exchange rate is a lot lower than it was, but he's still being pretty sarcastic.

[pokerchampgt]

Is there any reason why you didnt play 2/3 blind structures?

[jpatche]

DanielNegreanu said:

Approximate of course:4 years 10-208 months 20-404 months 40-802 years 100-2003 years 200-400/400-8001 year 1000-20006 months 2000-40006 months 4000-8000

are all of these limit games?what percentage do you play of each (limit/nl) as far as cash games?do any pros stick closely to no limit?

[pokerchampgt]

Yes they are all limit games

[pockets]

pokerchampgt said:

Yes they are all limit games

Well, I think the higher limits are mixed games, with limit and no limit (and pot limit, which now feels unloved because it only gets the parenthesees).

[AndyGee]

If you live in Toronto (as DN did during the 10/20 years) the biggest "legal" game you can play on a day in day out basis is 10/20. When you move to Vegas (or AC) you have so many limit options you can progress faster, and (although the pros and semi-pros are all over the place) there is more dead money in the pockets of spend happy tourists. I think DN has alluded to the fact that the 10/20 game he was playing in befor he moved south was a very tough game to beat.