mikeysong 0 Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 5/10Hero in sb has 7c Ad jacko247 called $5 pmytgsc called $5 limitking99 folded. Button called $5 MikeySong called $2.50 BB checked. Dealing flop. Board cards [4d 4h 4s] MikeySong checked - I should've bet here.[Jan 21 19:22:48] : TDS checked. [Jan 21 19:22:48] : jacko247 checked. [Jan 21 19:22:49] : pmytgsc checked. [Jan 21 19:22:52] : AnkerHansen checked. [Jan 21 19:22:52] : Dealing turn. [Jan 21 19:22:52] : Board cards [4d 4h 4s 2s] [Jan 21 19:22:54] : MikeySong bet $10 [Jan 21 19:22:57] : TDS folded. [Jan 21 19:22:58] : jacko247 folded. [Jan 21 19:23:00] : pmytgsc called $10 [Jan 21 19:23:03] : AnkerHansen folded. [Jan 21 19:23:04] : Dealing river. [Jan 21 19:23:04] : Board cards [4d 4h 4s 2s Td] [Jan 21 19:23:06] : MikeySong ??? Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 I c/c here, hu.In my experiences, people will obv call with any pair, and any ace here, so there really isn't much value in a bet, since our kicker doesn't play. I'd hope he bluffed at it with a worse hand. Link to post Share on other sites
aim786 0 Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 Yea, c/c is better here. Link to post Share on other sites
mikeysong 0 Posted January 24, 2007 Author Share Posted January 24, 2007 given that they Ax calls, i'm pretty safe since most people don't limp with Aj+don't you think most pairs here are bet/folding? Making it easy to tell if i'm ahead or behind? Sometimes K high calls here as well Link to post Share on other sites
iggymcfly 0 Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 Bet and call are close enough that it doesn't much matter what you do. I don't see a hand with no showdown value (at least K-hi) calling the turn, so I think a bluff is really unlikely if we check. With our kicker not playing, we're not getting called by a lot that we beat here either. Still though, I think K-x calls this enough to make betting very marginally profitable. Link to post Share on other sites
CoranMoran 0 Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 Bet and call are close enough that it doesn't much matter what you do. I don't see a hand with no showdown value (at least K-hi) calling the turn, so I think a bluff is really unlikely if we check. With our kicker not playing, we're not getting called by a lot that we beat here either. Still though, I think K-x calls this enough to make betting very marginally profitable.King-high really should not have called the turn.Even if he had a flush draw, it's a horrible play on a triple-board.Villain should either have an Ace or a passively played pair.I don't bet this river.Because if I get called, I don't think I win the whole pot very often at all.--CM Link to post Share on other sites
iggymcfly 0 Posted January 26, 2007 Share Posted January 26, 2007 Do you check/fold here? Because I can't imagine a pair checking behind if we check the river. C/C and bet/fold are exactly the same if we're up against the two or something. Maybe king high calling is a little bit of a stretch, but it's the only situation where it really matters what we do on the river, and bad call or not, I've seen it before. Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted January 26, 2007 Share Posted January 26, 2007 Iggy, you're losing 1 bet to a pair either way, and like you said, K-high almost never calls.However, I think you definitely get random crap to bluff at you enough to call a bet, which is why I c/c all day long. Link to post Share on other sites
iggymcfly 0 Posted January 26, 2007 Share Posted January 26, 2007 I meant king-high calling the turn is a little bit of a stretch. If it calls the turn, I think it's probably calling the river. I don't see "random crap" calling the turn at all. Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted January 26, 2007 Share Posted January 26, 2007 I meant king-high calling the turn is a little bit of a stretch. If it calls the turn, I think it's probably calling the river. I don't see "random crap" calling the turn at all.On trip boards, two random over cards call the turn a ton of the time, man. Like, a ton of the time. And they usually fold the river if they don't boat up. Link to post Share on other sites
iggymcfly 0 Posted January 27, 2007 Share Posted January 27, 2007 In an unraised pot after no flop bet? That $10 turn bet is almost half the pot. Actually, depending on the opponent, I think check/folding the river might be viable. Ace high's going to take a free showdown when checked to, and it's pretty darn unlikely for villian to show up with worse than that right now. Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted January 27, 2007 Share Posted January 27, 2007 In an unraised pot after no flop bet? That $10 turn bet is almost half the pot. Actually, depending on the opponent, I think check/folding the river might be viable. Ace high's going to take a free showdown when checked to, and it's pretty darn unlikely for villian to show up with worse than that right now.Why are you assuming a 5/10 player on TRIBECA is playing rationally?Have you ever played on Tribeca? Link to post Share on other sites
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