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#1 IAGTTAYM

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Posted 09 January 2007 - 05:25 AM

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FCP)

saw flop|saw showdown

SB ($5.58)
BB ($10.92)
UTG ($9.28)
MP ($5.63)
IAGTTAYM ($16.34)

Preflop: IAGTTAYM is Button with J icon_suit_heart.gif , A icon_suit_club.gif .
UTG calls $0.05, 1 fold, IAGTTAYM raises to $0.25, 2 folds, UTG calls $0.20.

Flop: ($0.57) T icon_suit_club.gif , 9 icon_suit_club.gif , 8 icon_suit_club.gif (2 players)
UTG bets $0.2, IAGTTAYM raises to $1, UTG calls $0.80.

Turn: ($2.57) 3 icon_suit_heart.gif (2 players)
UTG bets $0.3, IAGTTAYM raises to $2.2, UTG calls $1.90.

River: ($6.97) J icon_suit_club.gif (2 players)
UTG checks, IAGTTAYM?



Villian had not been at the table for long, but he seemed happy tp splash around a little. Villian had recently doubled up when he floated on a J97 flop with 33 and hit the set on the turn.

Preflop: Pretty standard for me, I attack limpers with position a lot.

Flop: Most of the time when villians leads weak, like in this situation, I raise. This time it's a no-brainer with the flush draw and str8 draw. Villian calls which is kinda worrying.

Turn: 3 of hearts doesn't really change anything. Villian weak leads again, which is unusual. I feelt like it was a good chance he was trying to buy a draw card cheap. So I decided to raise his weak bet (Is the size ok?), with the intention to fire at the river if another blank came off.

River: I hit my flush and villian checks. It's a four card straight flush on the board now. At this level, do you guys think there is a whole lot of value in betting the river? Would villian really draw to a small flush or a k high flush, and then check the river? Can I get any value from a straight? Villian got $5.83 left. He started the session with $3


#2 Doug

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Posted 09 January 2007 - 06:01 AM

He seems stupid enough so go ahead and bet $3-3.50, he looks as though he will pay anything in any case.
3 reasons why you can accept all in withouth see the floop:

1. if i am 200% convinced that i am a lucky guy and i will win

2. if i have the cards in hand that i wish(diferent cases: AA; AK; ... etc)

3. if i have a so called PokerRNG program that can copy the original RNG

#3 krup24

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Posted 09 January 2007 - 06:08 AM

bet his remaining $6
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Posted 10 January 2007 - 02:04 AM

I realize why you raised him on the turn, but there's often little value in doing so at this level. Donkbets on the turn are usually different from donkbets on the flop. They're not so much feeler bets as stubborn bets. Take the cheap draw. Put him in on the river.
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#5 NoSup4U

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Posted 10 January 2007 - 10:41 AM

This is like that other straight flush question. I just can't see villian checking a straight flush to you there, its the dumbest thing in the world. So bet and hope he calls with something stupid, its known to happen at much higher levels.

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