Aa On The Button

[krup24 0]

Poker StarsNo Limit Holdem Ring gameBlinds: $0.25/$0.509 playersConverterCO ($38)Hero ($41)Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is Button with 5 folds, CO raises to $1.5, Hero raises to $4.5, 2 folds, CO calls.Flop: ($9.75, 2 players)CO bets $4, Hero calls.Turn: ($17.75, 2 players)CO bets $4, Hero calls.River: ($25.75, 2 players)CO bets $4, Hero raises all-in $28.2no reads only about 2 orbitsanybody just call the river or raise the flop or turn?CO played this oddly i thought

[bdc30 0]

I probably raise flop. May fold to a push, depending on read. If he flat calls, and the turn is NOT a 4th card of same suit, I'm all in.

[Shimmering Wang 1]

Why did you flat call the turn?

[krup24 0]

Why did you flat call the turn?

I dunno. Protect against the made flush possibly and get a cheap shot at the nuts. The river bet made me believe he didn't have the flush.

[krup24 0]

I probably raise flop. May fold to a push, depending on read. If he flat calls, and the turn is NOT a 4th card of same suit, I'm all in.

I can't raise this flop, can I. It's obv a raise fold and I can't see how this is +EV. I like the thought of getting it in on the turn but again I wanna cheap shot at the nuts although I'm pretty much folding if a heart hits. Wow maybe I just suck.

[Shimmering Wang 1]

The flop is not good for our hand, but it's not like he's got the nut flush 100% of the time he bets out here. I can see calling the flop to see what he does OOP on the turn, but when the A comes off, flat calling is bad. You really don't want single heart hands coming along for free. You're ahead here unless he has a gayly played flush, or something weird like KT (maybe with a heart). That's it. I raise the turn, surely.

[cheetaking 0]

Basic rule: Don't bet on the river unless your opponent will either call with a worse hand or fold a better one.This board is way too dangerous for a raise on the river. Once that flop hits, your best bet is probably to just back off and hope to get to showdown for as cheap a price as possible. Raising on the flop or the turn might help you figure out where you are in the hand, but there is NO WAY that you should be raising on the river. the board is way too dangerous.With the bet you made, he's not calling with anything weaker than your trip aces except maybe a set, and he's definitely calling with anything better. If you flat call, you are beating the worse hands which he would fold to your raise anyway, and by flat-calling you are also limiting your losses if he does have you beat. Your river bet is just basically just throwing away 24 dollars.

[cwik 0]

I think you should raise the flop here, and especially the turn. Basically yes it is possible he has the flush, but you'll lose less finding out where you are early. On the other hand, your giving him way too much of a chance to catch up. As played I'd flat call the river.

[DonkSlayer 1]

I raise the turn, surely.

Krup, I don't get the river at all either.Wang, raising the turn is goot, but how much?. I'm really leaning toward a value/info raise, no more than to 10 or 12. I can't put our villain on just top pair with this flop...it has to be a set, 2pair, maaaaybe Ah/KhQx. He's not folding to a turn raise, perhaps not even to a push with any of those hands. If you flat-call the turn, you have to flat-call the river, because you're absolutely committed at this point if you raise and get pushed at. The allin is just....ugh. Like was said previously, only a set of J's or Q's is calling. Maybe. So Wang, this hand comes up when we're playing $400max, so add some zeroes to the amounts. We raise the turn to $40 bet on the turn to $120 to go. We get pushed at. What are we doing, considering the pot?

[krup24 0]

The flop is not good for our hand, but it's not like he's got the nut flush 100% of the time he bets out here. I can see calling the flop to see what he does OOP on the turn, but when the A comes off, flat calling is bad. You really don't want single heart hands coming along for free. You're ahead here unless he has a gayly played flush, or something weird like KT (maybe with a heart). That's it. I raise the turn, surely.

I like raising the turn as well. His bet kinda threw me off. Say I pot to $12 on turn, I can't fold to a push ever, right. I really think I am ahead as well. IMO there are only 8 cards I don't wanna see on the river.

[krup24 0]

I think you should raise the flop here, and especially the turn. Basically yes it is possible he has the flush, but you'll lose less finding out where you are early. On the other hand, your giving him way too much of a chance to catch up. As played I'd flat call the river.

say i raise the flop to $12, well I can basically get to a showdown for that. So I think I will lose about the same. Although I don't disagree that raising the flop can be optimal, actually i think it is.

[krup24 0]

Krup, I don't get the river at all either.Wang, raising the turn is goot, but how much?. I'm really leaning toward a value/info raise, no more than to 10 or 12. I can't put our villain on just top pair with this flop...it has to be a set, 2pair, maaaaybe Ah/KhQx. He's not folding to a turn raise, perhaps not even to a push with any of those hands. If you flat-call the turn, you have to flat-call the river, because you're absolutely committed at this point if you raise and get pushed at. The allin is just....ugh. Like was said previously, only a set of J's or Q's is calling. Maybe. So Wang, this hand comes up when we're playing $400max, so add some zeroes to the amounts. We raise the turn to $40 bet on the turn to $120 to go. We get pushed at. What are we doing, considering the pot?

With the bet you made, he's not calling with anything weaker than your trip aces except maybe a set, and he's definitely calling with anything better. If you flat call, you are beating the worse hands which he would fold to your raise anyway, and by flat-calling you are also limiting your losses if he does have you beat. Your river bet is just basically just throwing away 24 dollars.

I guess my only explanation for my river action is that I put him on 3 hands after his river bet. QQ, JJ, Ah,K all of which I beat. He didn't play this hand like a flush and I wanted a non heart river before I danced here (although this could kill my action). Why not push the river only hand that beats me IMO is a flush and I didn't think he had it.