Zach6668 513 Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 Absolute PokerLimit Holdem Ring gameLimit: $2/$48 playersConverterPre-flop: (8 players) Hero is Button with T T UTG folds, UTG+1 raises, 2 folds, CO calls, Hero 3-bets, SB caps, BB folds, UTG+1 calls, CO folds, Hero calls.Flop: 4 3 4 (15SB, 3 players)SB bets, UTG+1 calls, Hero calls.Turn: J (9BB, 3 players)SB bets, UTG+1 calls, Hero calls.River: 6 (12BB, 3 players)SB bets, UTG+1 folds, Hero calls.Results:Final pot: 14BBVillain is the biggest whiner in life. I guarantee anyone who plays on AP with any sort of regularity in 2/4 or 3/6 could guess his name. Anyways, he's not very aggro, and he's very easy to read, generally, but it's always one of thoe things where it's "is he on tilt this time?"... if you know what I mean.Anyways, he is like 23/8.3/1.83 after 2,819 hands.I'm pretty sure I can fold the turn, and should almost always fold this turn vs him, but I find is so hard to do. I usually want to just get to SD.Comments?EDIT - Ignore my title... I guess it was 2/4... I was playing a mix. Link to post Share on other sites
beans422 0 Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 Anyways, he is like 23/8.3/1.83 after 2,819 hands.I'm pretty sure I can fold the turn, and should almost always fold this turn vs him, but I find is so hard to do. I usually want to just get to SD.Fold. Against a 4 bet oop into 3 players preflop, either we have 2 outs or we're drawing dead against full house almost all the time. Link to post Share on other sites
TB17 0 Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 Don't think I fold the turn because it's more than likely that UTG+1 just has overcards or a smaller pair, seeing as how he didnt raise on the flop and didnt raise here either. And when he folds on the river well...we're getting pretty big odds on the river so we probably hafta call. Link to post Share on other sites
Shimmering Wang 1 Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 His capping range has to be at LEAST like JJ+. 99 doesn't open cap here. It could be AKs. But this seems like it's JJ, QQ, KK or AA most of the time. Against that range, I'd guess we're something like 8-1 or 9-1 on the turn against this player (our diamond or T is live, and we get there). This is completely IGNORING the UTG player, who may have us drawing dead to a ten if he holds something like AK/AQ/AJ with a diamond. If we're against a bigger diamond and an overpair (much more likely than not), we're chasing a two outer.Let's be kind, and say UTGs range is AJo+, KQo, and And AJs+, KQs.So, what seems like a reasonable best-case scenario, we're winning this pot something like 1 in 10-12 tries? our implieds are crap?Fold.Wang Link to post Share on other sites
TheCinciKid 0 Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 If there's a chance he's on tilt and auto-betting AK/AQ or KQ, then it's not horrible too call down here. I'm a bit concerned about UTG+1, but he's probably on a draw. Betting unimproved overs all the way against people who refuse to fold any pair is a particular leak of mine, so I can see calling down against a player with decent stats here not being horrible. Especially if he tilts easily. I think it's probably pretty read based though. Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted January 3, 2007 Author Share Posted January 3, 2007 See though, I've never really seen him tilt. I think he just moans and whines every 8 seconds. He's actually pretty awesome. He spikes a 2 outer and keeps his mouth shut, then lost to my flush/gutshot/over draw and whines for 10 straight minutes, lol. So I don't know if he is ever actually on tilt.Honestly, the way I've seen him play AK, AQ hands, I don't think he even caps with AKs there preflop. He always pushes his big hands hard.I really think calling flop is good here with odds+implied vs this guy who will probably bet/3-bet turn if I spike, and always call down after my 3-bet, at the very least, with an over pair, is the best line. I should fold turn UI. Link to post Share on other sites
DonkSlayer 1 Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 I think you have to raise the turn if you still want to play. Inadvisable because there's a 3rd coming along. Link to post Share on other sites
quadaces 0 Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 Absolute PokerLimit Holdem Ring gameLimit: $2/$48 playersConverterPre-flop: (8 players) Hero is Button with T T UTG folds, UTG+1 raises, 2 folds, CO calls, Hero 3-bets, SB caps, BB folds, UTG+1 calls, CO folds, Hero calls.Flop: 4 3 4 (15SB, 3 players)SB bets, UTG+1 calls, Hero calls.Turn: J (9BB, 3 players)SB bets, UTG+1 calls, Hero calls.River: 6 (12BB, 3 players)SB bets, UTG+1 folds, Hero calls.Results:Final pot: 14BBVillain is the biggest whiner in life. I guarantee anyone who plays on AP with any sort of regularity in 2/4 or 3/6 could guess his name. Anyways, he's not very aggro, and he's very easy to read, generally, but it's always one of thoe things where it's "is he on tilt this time?"... if you know what I mean.Anyways, he is like 23/8.3/1.83 after 2,819 hands.I'm pretty sure I can fold the turn, and should almost always fold this turn vs him, but I find is so hard to do. I usually want to just get to SD.Comments?EDIT - Ignore my title... I guess it was 2/4... I was playing a mix.Was this me? Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted January 4, 2007 Author Share Posted January 4, 2007 Was this me?Are you AMC_14? Link to post Share on other sites
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