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What is the Play?
What is the best play?
Check [ 212 ] ** [29.86%]
Go All in [ 58 ] ** [8.17%]
Bet 33% of the pot [ 103 ] ** [14.51%]
Bet 50% of the pot [ 337 ] ** [47.46%]
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TheDonk1989
post Friday, April 3rd, 2009, 6:20 AM
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I voted to check. A check here would be best. Check-calling would be very effective in this situation. You want to keep the pot small so you check, if the grinder bets at you call. This protects your hand and if he's making a play its giving you chips. Even if your behind, your losing minimum.

Whenever I'm in a tough spot where I think I might be ahead I use this:

"When in doubt, check-call."

It gives your opponent a chance to bet at you and when your not in the lead you lose minimum or you could get lucky on the river.


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post Wednesday, April 8th, 2009, 4:37 AM
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If you again bet 33% he probably got you all figured out. So that's what I'd do.
If he re-raises, I'd fold.
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post Wednesday, April 8th, 2009, 11:39 AM
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I was thinking check-raise. I don't think he has anything (80%) or he's slow playing a very strong hand (20%). Let him bluff off more chips then end the hand.


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post Saturday, April 18th, 2009, 9:09 PM
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i like check in ver much

All-in: Risking the first or second chip lead with 5 left on a top pair mid kicker. This is extreme over-betting and you can get the same information from the 30% or 50% bets.
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post Friday, June 12th, 2009, 10:44 AM
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All in looses two ways. #1 Grinder flopped a monster and you are bye bye.
#2 Grinder has mediocre hand like K X or the mid pair mentioned and you loose some cash because he folds.

Check looses as in #2 above, but then opens the door for a Grinder bluff which many seem to worry about. Even if Grinder checks, are you now going to bet on the river after showing weakness?

Raise 30%: It is OK as it could be read as a "please call me now that I know you are willing to throw in chips" and could be read as I just turned 2 pair or better. It also shows you still want money in the pot. It could be read as a weak bet inviting a reraise from the Grinder. I only do not like it because it gives 4 to 1 odds and I get no info if called wether the grinder is on a draw with a weak K or slow playing a monster.

I like Raise 50%: This discourages a reraise as a bluff since it is a stronger bet. It still offers 3 to 1 for a weak draw or even if the grinder slow played a big pair like QQ, JJ. Showing you are willing to throw money in the pot will also invite him to reraise if he has you beat. Except for the now unlikely bluff, the Grinder will tell you exactly what he has by his bet.
Fold = You got me beat.
Call = I want to look you up as I am not convinced. (Or slow playing monster)
Raise = Got you.

You can react accordingly.
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post Saturday, October 17th, 2009, 10:05 PM
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My reasoning is this;

There is no way he has a pocket pair. He would've reraised against you or mucked a lower pair. The only card he could've hit is the K. The Grinder more than likely would've bet the hand he had on the flop. However, the board isn't scary in any way. Plus, if he does have AK/KQ he's likely calling us down. The best ploy is to check because I'm thinking he's playing a weak ace or cards you wouldn't play in your every day nine handed table.


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post Monday, November 9th, 2009, 6:05 AM
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The Grinder plays pretty tight meaning I don't think my hand is completely that great but it is heads up and top pair heads up can be pretty good.
I would check call the turn. knowing the board is all rainbow I'm not too scared of letting him see the river. Then block bet the river, but checking the turn might make him think that I'm weak and bluffing and I can't do that with a weak hand like that. But were both chip leaders and I don't think he would reraise me there unless he was really strong. Even if he did smell weakness I think he would probably still fold. Keyword "The Grinder"


Or 1/3 bet turn, 1/3 bet river and hope he's calling with pocket pair.


Does anyone if Daniel gives any thoughts on his questions?
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