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[Dbear90]

Can someone clarify a rule for me, if a hand is dead yet the player shows 1 card is he committed to reveal his second card as well.

[_Great_Dane_]

Can someone clarify a rule for me, if a hand is dead yet the player shows 1 card is he committed to reveal his second card as well.

For example, if I raise all in, you fold, then I show one card, you can request the dealer to show my other card. This rule is in place in WPT and WSOP events to discourage "needling" other players. I've only seen a few players call the rule and ask for the other card to be shown.

[simo_8ball]

For example, if I raise all in, you fold, then I show one card, you can request the dealer to show my other card. This rule is in place in WPT and WSOP events to discourage "needling" other players. I've only seen a few players call the rule and ask for the other card to be shown.

People usually misinterpret this as the "show one, show all" rule.

[Actuary]

really?
I thought that you can show just one and keep the other from being shown.
and that "show one, show all" refers to showing all players at the table anything you showed to one person.
I may have learned something?

[shpaget]

There is no such rule. You can show just one of your hole cards, be it hold'em, omaha, stud, or razz.


"Show one show all" means if you show one player your cards you have to show all the players at the table.

In fact, Phil Laak raised this very question in a WPT event where a player showed one card, and he asked to see the other under "show one show all" and was told the player did not have to.

Of all places the rule is NOT in place is the WPT nor the WSOP - it's part of the game.....Sammy Farha does it ALL the time.

Sure, I've seen players ask to see the other cards, and sometimes the guy obliges, sometimes not - and I've seen dealers, and even pitstaff, misinterpret "show one, show all", but in most poker rooms it is not required.

It may be in place in certain casinos or poker rooms (none I've ever played)...we all have our own house rules, but it is not a standard rule.

The only time you are required to show both cards is on showdown, as both cards are required to win the hand (unless you declare that you are playing the board), or, if you fold face down, at the request of a player at the table.

[_Great_Dane_]

There is no such rule. You can show just one of your hole cards, be it hold'em, omaha, stud, or razz.

The next time that you play in a WPT, WSOP, or WSOP circuit event ask the tournament director about it. I've seen it called and enforced in events in which I've played and David Williams called it and had it enforced in a televised WPT event.

[shpaget]

The next time that you play in a WPT, WSOP, or WSOP circuit event ask the tournament director about it. I've seen it called and enforced in events in which I've played and David Williams called it and had it enforced in a televised WPT event.

From the World Series of Poker website, under Rules:

"6. Show one, show all. Players are entitled to receive equal access to information about the contents of another player's hand. After a deal, if cards are shown to another player, every player at the table has a right to see those cards. During a deal, cards that were shown to an active player who might have a further wagering decision on that betting round must immediately be shown to all the other players. If the player who saw the cards is not involved in the deal, or cannot use the information in wagering, the information should be withheld until the betting is over, so it does not affect the normal outcome of the deal. Cards shown to a person who has no more wagering decisions on that betting round, but might use the information on a later betting round, should be shown to the other players at the conclusion of that betting round. If only a portion of the hand has been shown, there is no requirement to show any of the unseen cards. The shown cards are treated as given in the preceding part of this rule."

http://www.worldseriesofpoker.com/learn/rules.sps

I would like to know the circumstances of David Williams situation - as I said, there is always this rule:

"1. To win any part of a pot, a player must show all of his cards faceup on the table, whether they were used in the final hand played or not."

It's a basic, simple rule - and even some pros and pitstaff screw it up....like I said, Phil Laak, in a WPT event, tried to see a player's second card under "show one show all" and was denied the request - a correct ruling.

[simo_8ball]

Thanks shpaget - I knew it wasn't the show one, show all rule, but I wasn't sure if there was a rule covering this.