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#1 Roberts2003

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Posted 31 December 2006 - 01:17 AM

PokerStars Game #7692432254: Tournament #39328452, $20+$2 Hold'em No Limit - Level XIII (1000/2000) - 2006/12/31 - 04:07:15 (ET)
Table '39328452 11' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: Roberts2006 (32426 in chips)
Seat 3: PurpByTheOz (62594 in chips)
Seat 4: JRBEN (70308 in chips)
Seat 5: mutabor (55428 in chips)
Seat 7: DeecDeec (49244 in chips)
Roberts2006: posts the ante 100
PurpByTheOz: posts the ante 100
JRBEN: posts the ante 100
mutabor: posts the ante 100
DeecDeec: posts the ante 100
mutabor: posts small blind 1000
DeecDeec: posts big blind 2000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Roberts2006 [Ts Tc]
Roberts2006: raises 4000 to 6000
PurpByTheOz: raises 6000 to 12000
JRBEN: folds
mutabor: folds
DeecDeec: folds
Roberts2006 said, "purp you going to show"
PurpByTheOz said, "no"
mutabor said, "lol"
Roberts2006: raises 20326 to 32326 and is all-in
PurpByTheOz: calls 20326
*** FLOP *** [6h 7h Jh]
Roberts2006 said, "yeah"
Roberts2006 said, "i thought so that was dumb"
mutabor said, "nhs"
*** TURN *** [6h 7h Jh] [Ks]
*** RIVER *** [6h 7h Jh Ks] [8d]
PurpByTheOz said, "gg roberts"
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Roberts2006: shows [Ts Tc] (a pair of Tens)
PurpByTheOz: shows [Ah As] (a pair of Aces)
PurpByTheOz collected 68152 from pot
DeecDeec said, "gg"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 68152 | Rake 0
Board [6h 7h Jh Ks 8d]
Seat 1: Roberts2006 showed [Ts Tc] and lost with a pair of Tens
Seat 3: PurpByTheOz showed [Ah As] and won (68152) with a pair of Aces
Seat 4: JRBEN (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: mutabor (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 7: DeecDeec (big blind) folded before Flop


I was short stack kind of, the read on Purp is that he is a fairly solid player, and i was pretty sure I was beat, yet couldnt fold because of a couple reasons. Do you fold here?
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Posted 31 December 2006 - 01:50 AM

Don't post results!!!!



Basically, against his range, you aren't faring too well.

I'd fold and wait for another spot, 20k 5 handed isn't opitmal, but you aren't out yet.

You're either racing against him, or dominated, and it's very likely he has JJ+, AQ+, and you're only beating 2/6 hands there.

Besides, you're up against AA, obviously fold!!! (sw)
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Posted 31 December 2006 - 02:20 PM

Your M is ~9, so I don't like calling (you maaaaybe could make an argument for a stop and go if you really think he's got something like AKs). Folding seems weak, though, and pushing seems too crazy. This is a tough spot.

If you had been playing aggro and raising a lot of pots (which you should be 5 handed) and you think he is trying to "resteal" I would push.

If not then idk....I would still probably push.

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Posted 31 December 2006 - 05:41 PM

Convert hands...



He actually has about an M of 5 compensated for the short handed play. you shoulda shoved pre-flop, guy picks up AA thats poker...... sux with your M you shouldn't be folding TT imho


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Posted 31 December 2006 - 07:03 PM

I think I would have probably played it the same, especially if the table has been tight and your first raise could take it down. The other alternatives (push up front, stop and go) are going to get you to the same point anyway..out!
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Posted 31 December 2006 - 07:29 PM

Oh right Alex, I forgot. His "effective M" is closer to 5. I'm thinkin push for sure now.
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#7 Flushgarden

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Posted 31 December 2006 - 08:33 PM

I'd still wait for a better spot.
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Posted 01 January 2007 - 01:21 AM

i fold tens and even jacks here. just cuz i hate them.




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