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[MasterLJ]

Last night I played live for the first time in about 2 months. $2/$2 $200 with about $4000 on the table in total.Hand 1: 5 way all-in pre-flop. A5, A8, Q9, AK and 10 3. Of course 10 3 wins.Hand 2: 4 way action pre-flop, 1 is all-in everyone else has contributed $130 to see a flop: A8, AT, AK, 77. AT sucks out on AK after AK pushes a flop with an A.Some dude and his wife are basically taking turns playing. The dude pushes the turn with a gut shot and hits the river. 5 hands later he does the same thing and hits. 30 minutes later while he is outside smoking his wife does the same thing and hits. So sick.Seriously, how do these people afford to lose $1000 per night? I see this all the time. I'm thankful for this, but I'm in awe. I know for a fact that one of the super-donks is a regular and works a pretty low-paying job.It also brings up a question about how you should play this game. It's always been my belief that if there is that much value and action, playing passively pre-flop and punishing donks when you hit is the best way. You really can't be aggressive at all or else you will start having to make tough decisions, like calling pre-flop all ins with 99 for example.

[showstopper24]

They must save up and then blow it all on one night.

[MasterLJ]

These people are regulars.

[Zach6668]

MasterLJ, on Friday, December 29th, 2006, 5:38 PM, said:

These people are regulars.

They make their money on roullette first and then donk it away at the poker tables. Pretty standard.Seriously. Most people suck at life, and think they are much better than they really are, and are too stubborn. Others treat it like gamboooling.

[socalpoker_j]

MasterLJ, on Friday, December 29th, 2006, 2:25 PM, said:

Last night I played live for the first time in about 2 months. $2/$2 $200 with about $4000 on the table in total.Hand 1: 5 way all-in pre-flop. A5, A8, Q9, AK and 10 3. Of course 10 3 wins.Hand 2: 4 way action pre-flop, 1 is all-in everyone else has contributed $130 to see a flop: A8, AT, AK, 77. AT sucks out on AK after AK pushes a flop with an A.Some dude and his wife are basically taking turns playing. The dude pushes the turn with a gut shot and hits the river. 5 hands later he does the same thing and hits. 30 minutes later while he is outside smoking his wife does the same thing and hits. So sick.Seriously, how do these people afford to lose $1000 per night? I see this all the time. I'm thankful for this, but I'm in awe. I know for a fact that one of the super-donks is a regular and works a pretty low-paying job.It also brings up a question about how you should play this game. It's always been my belief that if there is that much value and action, playing passively pre-flop and punishing donks when you hit is the best way. You really can't be aggressive at all or else you will start having to make tough decisions, like calling pre-flop all ins with 99 for example.

Did they call out any of these phrases, "Monkey", "Boingo", or "Ribbit" before getting their money in? If so, I believe I have your answer.

[navybuttons]

i'll share a story:my casino has a 3/6 stud8 game. there is a regular there named bobby. bobby plays real loose and fast. sometimes he goes up real big and sometimes he goes down real big. because he's been there every day for years he's made friends with nearly 40% of the low limit regulars. when bobby's up real big he talks about it, when he's down real big he's not so vocal. then bobby goes broke. scott was born rich(plays a lot at the hollywood park 20/40 stud 8 game and has played the 75/150 BOT game at the bellagio, but usually plays the 6/12 O8 game at my casino.) bobby asks scott for a little bit of money. scotts never played at the 3/6 stud8 game with bobby but he's convinced that bobby's a winner (along with everybody else). anyone decent at stud8 would know that bobby blows goat balls at stud8. lucky for bobby no one at the casino is really adept at stud8 and no one talks too poorly about his play. scott's pretty sure his investment is good, booby stays in the game, wins a little looses a little, and eventually goes broke again. but by then there's a new player named doc. doc is rich...(it's like 99 bottles of beer on the wall)

[MasterLJ]

I guess it could be something like that.There's no question that being a super-donk can lead to some huge stacks, but Jeez. I watched Mr. and Mrs. River go from $100 to $1100. The guy who sucked out on AK with AT went from $1500 to busto. Another guy went from $1800 to busto. And yet another gentlemen went from $1200 to busto. At the end of the night me and one other guy had almost everyone's chips (the other guy having about double what I had). He was rocking about $2500 at a $200 game, lol. I'm wondering why I even bother playing online.

[sleepi]

ever heard of something called a rush? and you can't imagine they are up overall of all the times they played

[MasterLJ]

sleepi, on Friday, December 29th, 2006, 3:12 PM, said:

ever heard of something called a rush? and you can't imagine they are up overall of all the times they played

What are you talking about? Umm, yeah I've heard of a rush and the fact that they can't be up overall is exactly what lead me to post this. How are these people not living in a cardboard box after losing $$$$ every night? These people ain't rich.My favorite hand of the night:I have AK in the BB. Surprisingly I'm able to isolate against a donk that calls any raise pre-flop with any 2. Flop comes 10 5 2 rainbow. I c-bet, he calls. Now, he actually laid down on the flop in a previous hand where I had AQs. He calls my flop c-bet here, turn is a 9. I check, he checks. River is an 8. I check, he checks... he tables Jh9h. There were no hearts anywhere. I played the hand perfectly but was astounded by his play. Then I spent about the next hour trying to figure out what the hell he folded on the flop when I had AQ.

[mrdannyg]

at the place i play, there are at least three regulars, who i generally see on my way to the casino. one simply begs, one is a street entertainer, and the other one a general busker. they take their day's worth of earnings, and buy in at the 1/2 NL game. you can always tell, since they always get their chips at the cage, and always have weird amounts, like $57 or $86.

[ForRealDD]

MasterLJ, on Friday, December 29th, 2006, 3:18 PM, said:

I have AK in the BB. Surprisingly I'm able to isolate against a donk that calls any raise pre-flop with any 2. Flop comes 10 5 2 rainbow. I c-bet, he calls. Now, he actually laid down on the flop in a previous hand where I had AQs. He calls my flop c-bet here, turn is a 9. I check, he checks. River is an 8. I check, he checks... he tables Jh9h. There were no hearts anywhere. I played the hand perfectly but was astounded by his play. Then I spent about the next hour trying to figure out what the hell he folded on the flop when I had AQ.

This hand isn't that tough. I would say he thought you missed the flop, so he took a card (likely with the intention of taking the pot on a blank turn), instead he caught a piece and was inclined to check/call

[MasterLJ]

ForRealDD, on Friday, December 29th, 2006, 3:41 PM, said:

This hand isn't that tough. I would say he thought you missed the flop, so he took a card (likely with the intention of taking the pot on a blank turn), instead he caught a piece and was inclined to check/call

No, he played terribly. First off, pre-flop I raised from his $7 raise to $32 and second... if you are going to call a bet with no pair no draw and then don't bet when you catch your miracle card in position, you are playing terribly.

[No_Neck]

MasterLJ, on Friday, December 29th, 2006, 6:49 PM, said:

No, he played terribly. First off, pre-flop I raised from his $7 raise to $32 and second... if you are going to call a bet with no pair no draw and then don't bet when you catch your miracle card in position, you are playing terribly.

My guess would be they are putting everything on a credit card and then taking there paycheck and spending it on the casino.

[michael1123]

MasterLJ, on Friday, December 29th, 2006, 6:18 PM, said:

What are you talking about? Umm, yeah I've heard of a rush and the fact that they can't be up overall is exactly what lead me to post this. How are these people not living in a cardboard box after losing $$$$ every night? These people ain't rich.

The answer is basically that there's a lot of luck involved in poker. They don't lose every night. They buyin for $100 or whatever and usually lose, but sometimes they go on a rush like you've described and walk out with $1000 profit for that night. That night then funds 10 more nights of buying in for $100.Obviously they're losing overall, but their paychecks combined with occasional lucky streaks keep them in the game, and because they occasionally get lucky and win a lot more than they bought in for on that given night they believe they have some skill at the game.

[PrtyPSux]

michael1123, on Friday, December 29th, 2006, 11:41 PM, said:

The answer is basically that there's a lot of luck involved in poker. They don't lose every night. They buyin for $100 or whatever and usually lose, but sometimes they go on a rush like you've described and walk out with $1000 profit for that night. That night then funds 10 more nights of buying in for $100.Obviously they're losing overall, but their paychecks combined with occasional lucky streaks keep them in the game, and because they occasionally get lucky and win a lot more than they bought in for on that given night they believe they have some skill at the game.

[Balloon guy]

So if I get it all in with A 10 or 10 3 and double or triple up I should cash out?But I'm so hot right now!!!!Oh wait I think I see the problem