Missing Some Value?

[simo_8ball 1]

Full Tilt PokerPot Limit Omaha Ring gameBlinds: $0.50/$15 playersConverterPre-flop: (5 players) Hero is BB with 9 4 3 5 UTG raises to $2, 2 folds, SB calls, Hero calls.Flop: 5 4 5 ($6, 3 players)SB checks, Hero bets $3, UTG folds, SB calls.Turn: 7 ($12, 2 players)SB bets $6, Hero raises to $16, SB calls.River: 3 ($44, 2 players)SB checks, Hero bets $24, SB calls.Results:Final pot: $92I think I should have got more in at some point. I don't know where.

[Wingman008 0]

I think checking the flop would be better, then calling the turn, and then pushing the river.What I think this does is it allows UTG to hopefully pick up some draw. It also makes it looks like you missed the flop.Calling the turn hopefully makes it seem that you have picked up some draws. And then pushing the river....well, you are pushing the river regardless.

[BudBundy 0]

Perfectto.There are not many hands that call a larger bet on any street.How do you convert omaha hands?

[simo_8ball 1]

How do you convert omaha hands?

http://www.neildewhurst.com/hand-converter/

[simo_8ball 1]

I think checking the flop would be better, then calling the turn, and then pushing the river.What I think this does is it allows UTG to hopefully pick up some draw. It also makes it looks like you missed the flop.Calling the turn hopefully makes it seem that you have picked up some draws. And then pushing the river....well, you are pushing the river regardless.

The problem is, there are a lot of hands that will check this flop, but would call a bet. Straight draws will call $3 I think. If it checks round on the flop, I have a problem in that the pot is small, and there is the potential for an overpair to spike on the turn and lose me a fair amount. I like protecting my hand on the flop and trying to build the pot early. Maybe I'm being too scared of being outdrawn.I think I should have raised a little more on the turn, but I don't know if a straight would call any more. Maybe I can squeeze some more on the river, but again what can pay me? 33/44/53 are the only possibilities for lower boats, and straights are folding to a big bet I think.

[Wingman008 0]

Not sure if this is a relevant argument since at this point I am kinda drunk......But wouldn't 2 people in the pot and maybe improving 70% of the time outweigh the amount that you will have to lay something down in a reletviely small pot?I am not saying that that's how I play it, because I would do what you did, I am just looking at alternate methods as you can see from my other posts.

[meservery 0]

I think I should have got more in at some point. I don't know where.

You could pot the flop. And then when villian leads the turn the bet should be bigger, thus allowing you to raise more.As played, you might want to make the river bet closer to 2/3 or 3/4 the pot as opposed to a little more than half.I only play $25 PL Omaha, so this might not work in a bigger game.

[simo_8ball 1]

You could pot the flop. And then when villian leads the turn the bet should be bigger, thus allowing you to raise more.

I think if I pot a lot of straight draws fold. I agree with the general idea of it though. Most people fail to see the difference that (for instance) raising to 2.5xbb and raising to 4xbb preflop can make. It seems insignificant, but the latter raise creates much larger pots much faster.

As played, you might want to make the river bet closer to 2/3 or 3/4 the pot as opposed to a little more than half.

Yeah, I do think that $30 would work almost as often as $24, but I was fairly sure he had the straight. If I bet pot he folds.

I only play $25 PL Omaha, so this might not work in a bigger game.

At $25PLO I would probably be checkraising this flop and potting it all the way from there. You think that line would get paid off by an overpair or straight generally?Results:Villain had [ 6 2 8 5 ] for the nut straight.

[meservery 0]

At $25PLO I would probably be checkraising this flop and potting it all the way from there. You think that line would get paid off by an overpair or straight generally?

For $25 PLO, I would normally pot this flop. My thinking being that the villians would never believe that i would make such a large bet after flopping a full house. With lots of opponents someone could be sitting with A5xx or 44xx too. At lower levels most players are like me and just learning and may still try to draw to a flush or straight on a paired board no matter what my bet size is saying...

[Kendren 1]

I think you played this nicely. In retrospect, you could have gotten him to call more on the river, maybe even a full pot bet, but I don't know. Maybe even just calling on the turn if you feel you're certainly best, and from the action, I would have thought you were. But vnh.