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[looshle]

Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (10 handed) converterPreflop: Hero is BB with [7s], [7c]. 3 folds, Hero calls.Flop: (4.50 SB) [8d], [3h], [8h] (2 players)Hero checks, MP1 bets, MP1 calls.Turn: (4.25 BB) [Jd] (2 players)Hero bets, Hero calls.River: (8.25 BB) [7d] (2 players)Hero bets, MP1 calls.Final Pot: 10.25 BBResults in white below: Hero has 7s 7c (full house, sevens full of eights). MP1 has Qs Ac (one pair, eights). Outcome: Hero wins 10.25 BB. mp1=wrto

[akishore]

i don't understand... why is he a fish? he played it exactly like he should have.aseem

[Vade]

People fall in love with AQ and AK when nothing hits on the board all the way downJen Harman in SS2 points out that people try to bet AK all the way to the endPunish them!

[akishore]

Vade said:

People fall in love with AQ and AK when nothing hits on the board all the way downJen Harman in SS2 points out that people try to bet AK all the way to the endPunish them!

it's usually wrong in a multiway pot, but it's usually right heads-up against a tricky/aggressive player. he played it fine, went for a turn bluff that didn't work, and the pot was so large at the river that it's worth one more bet to see if ace-high wins it.aseem

[Vade]

I disagree since the OP raised on the flopGood read, btwSince OP raised on the flop, fish's turn bluff is badBut meh free money for the OP

[KDawgCometh]

Vade said:

I disagree since the OP raised on the flopGood read, btwSince OP raised on the flop, fish's turn bluff is badBut meh free money for the OP

yes, but OP's raise is standard when you feel someone is playing with a big Ace and you have a Mid PP. In this cas Wrto riased with the extra broadway card that hit to scare of the OP. Its a much better play then you'd think. Wrto open raised from MP1 meaning that He could have a riange of 88-AA for PPs and AKs, AKo, AQs, AQo, AJs, AJo, A10s, A10o, KQs, KQo. that's a fairly wide range of hands, so his turn bluff riase is fine in my book

[Vade]

Hah, I didn't see it was wrto as the other guyIt's late and I'm tired and I was thrown off by fish in the titleMeh, I still don't like it but I'll respect the man making the play

[AK33]

You respect the play when a guy tries to bluff the turn when he was raised on the flop? Are you kidding me? Would you really expect a player to let go of his hand after he raises you on the flop with nothing scary coming on the turn? Then the call on the river is even worse, your failed attempt at a bluff didn't work, you didn't hit anything on the river, how could you even begin to fathom the fact that you could have the best hand? Terrible. ~Slick~

[Rocketwadster]

the "fish" was the aggressor pre-flop, and hence continued being the agressor after the flop. Your raise to his bet could have meant anything, so he calls. Turn is not a scary card, so when you bet, he raised to take back the lead, your call gave it to him. River looks like a possible flush card on top of the possible full, but based onthe size of the pot at this time, when you bet his correct play was to call.I don't think he was a fish at all this hand. He played it almost exactly like I would have, based solely on the was the cards fell (not knowing anything about how you play at this time).

[Suited_Up]

This may be a fine play at high limits.Not at Party 2/4. You are raising assuming that they 1. Have less than AQ... and 2. Will actually fold it. If they C/R you on the flop... It's pretty rare they are doing that with a lesser hand. Or no hand.I don't like this play at all.

[Vade]

AK33 said:

You respect the play when a guy tries to bluff the turn when he was raised on the flop? Are you kidding me? Would you really expect a player to let go of his hand after he raises you on the flop with nothing scary coming on the turn? Then the call on the river is even worse, your failed attempt at a bluff didn't work, you didn't hit anything on the river, how could you even begin to fathom the fact that you could have the best hand? Terrible. ~Slick~

Respecting the player as a valued contributor to this site doesn't mean I have to like or agree with this particular play