Did Either Of Us Overplay Our Hands Here?

[akishore 0]

No read on villain. This is literally the third hand of the game. (First hand, I folded the SB. Second hand, he raised to 30 and I folded the BB.) Blinds are 5-10 and starting stacks are 1500, so he has 30 more chips than me at the beginning of the hand (I think this is very irrelevant).FCP is really dumb with Omaha hands; I can't put all the suits up graphically because it apparently exceeds the image limit. So just read the hand from Pokerhand.http://www.pokerhand.org/?686432Please share all opinions -- did either of us overplay our hands? Take into account that:a. winning the hand virtually locks the tournament.b. he had been waiting 1 out of 2 entrants in this sng and a $50 one. I was the second to join. (I am including this because this makes me think he knows what he's doing to some extent, if he goes out of his way to wait for a challenger at HU PLO8.)c. he has no read on me.d. the stacks are decently deep, 150 bb to start. I think both of us figure that if all the money goes in on the flop, in the best case, neither of us are huge favorites. But by the time we realize that, there is already a lot of dead money in the pot.If you think either of us did overplay our hand, what do you differently where? e.g. "I think once he three-bets you on the flop, you should consider calling and folding any non-low card (as it not only fills up a wrap but leaves you drawing virtually dead to a set)."etc.Thanks,Aseem

[dingas 0]

Obviously villain did "overplay" his hand, since there's no way he's ever a favorite when called.He probably thought he could push you off any hand except a set, and if you have a set he would have outs. He made a gutsy semi-bluff and you made a good call. Like you indicated in your post it's not possible to really say if your play is good or bad without knowing more about this opponent (does he ever slow-play his sets, does he bluff alot etc.)I'm not sure what you would gain by calling and folding to a Q, J, 9, or A turn. If you feel you are ahead often enough, you should stick it in on the flop.

[navybuttons 16]

on the flop you are either way behind or a coinflip. if you've decided that you are going to go with your hand you might as well call the 3-bet and fold to a broadway turn. (at that point what can you beat?)then you can use your position to stack him when he wiffs the turn.

[Chamonyx 0]

on the flop you are either way behind or a coinflip. if you've decided that you are going to go with your hand you might as well call the RE-RAISE and fold to a broadway turn.

I like this approach a lot, given that it is a tournament scenario

[JacKingOff_suit 0]

tatta is the most retarded lo8 player. Not really, but still kind of retarded. But he did have a nice hand here, I don't think either of u overplayed ur hands. waiting for theturn is good approach too.

[simo_8ball 1]

FCP is really dumb with Omaha hands; I can't put all the suits up graphically because it apparently exceeds the image limit.

If you use the neildewhurst converter it works (FTR format and put in spaces - change 6:spade: to 6 :spade: )For the hand itself, the initial raise on the flop is standard. Folding is not an option so you're left with shoving or calling to see a turn.If you call the 3-bet, you will have 675 left and the pot will be 1620 (if I added correctly). I don't think villain will be folding many hands getting 3.6 to 1 on a shove, regardless of what the turn card is. I think I like to gain more info. If we accept that villain is committed there is little reason not to see the turn.