What is the correct style of play for a limit game that is super-loose (like all 2/4 and some 3/6 tables). Everyone knows that if there are limpers and you raise, all the limpers are calling. Does this give more value to connectors & suited cards? If it does, with limpers, are these mediocre suited/connector cards now raising hands? Any thoughts?
Loose Limit Tables
Started by coppedit, Dec 20 2006 05:19 AM
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#1
Posted 20 December 2006 - 05:19 AM
What is the correct style of play for a limit game that is super-loose (like all 2/4 and some 3/6 tables). Everyone knows that if there are limpers and you raise, all the limpers are calling. Does this give more value to connectors & suited cards? If it does, with limpers, are these mediocre suited/connector cards now raising hands? Any thoughts?
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#2
Posted 20 December 2006 - 05:22 AM
Post this in the limit strat section, you'll probably get more/better responses.
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#3
Posted 20 December 2006 - 06:08 AM
QUOTE (coppedit @ Wednesday, December 20th, 2006, 8:19 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
What is the correct style of play for a limit game that is super-loose (like all 2/4 and some 3/6 tables). Everyone knows that if there are limpers and you raise, all the limpers are calling. Does this give more value to connectors & suited cards? If it does, with limpers, are these mediocre suited/connector cards now raising hands? Any thoughts?
The best advice I can give you:
Read "Small Stakes Hold'em" by Ed Miller/ David Sklansky. He addresses these issues much more concisely than anyone here will.
Wang
#4
Posted 20 December 2006 - 06:36 AM
QUOTE (Shimmering Wang @ Wednesday, December 20th, 2006, 9:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The best advice I can give you:
Read "Small Stakes Hold'em" by Ed Miller/ David Sklansky. He addresses these issues much more concisely than anyone here will.
Wang
Read "Small Stakes Hold'em" by Ed Miller/ David Sklansky. He addresses these issues much more concisely than anyone here will.
Wang
QFT
I'm reading it now. I actually ran bad just after I started it, but I think I was getting too cute.
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#5
Posted 20 December 2006 - 09:15 AM
These tables cant be beat. Move up to where they respect your raises.
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SSHE in a nutshell ----
1) You can play a little looser than you can at a tight table
2) Be very aggressive on the flop and or turn because the other players will often have good odds to chase. You need
to be making lots of raises and checkraises to ruin thier odds.
3) Suited cards go way up in value. Unsuited broadway goes down. Sklanskly has even argued that raising a hand like AQo
from the SB isnt a great play here with a gazillion limpers (and argued they did, and I think he backed down, but the point
he was trying to make is still valid, I wish i had the threads about this).
4) Value bet the river. If you have any hand and think they will call with a lesser hand bet bet bet bet bet. board qt257 you have at. they
check to you. bet.
hey I shoulda wrote this like 5 years ago and put it into a pretty red book, i wouldnt be at work right now
------------------------------
SSHE in a nutshell ----
1) You can play a little looser than you can at a tight table
2) Be very aggressive on the flop and or turn because the other players will often have good odds to chase. You need
to be making lots of raises and checkraises to ruin thier odds.
3) Suited cards go way up in value. Unsuited broadway goes down. Sklanskly has even argued that raising a hand like AQo
from the SB isnt a great play here with a gazillion limpers (and argued they did, and I think he backed down, but the point
he was trying to make is still valid, I wish i had the threads about this).
4) Value bet the river. If you have any hand and think they will call with a lesser hand bet bet bet bet bet. board qt257 you have at. they
check to you. bet.
hey I shoulda wrote this like 5 years ago and put it into a pretty red book, i wouldnt be at work right now
QUOTE ( Barry Greenstein)
Successful gamblers are compulsive winners.
#6
Posted 20 December 2006 - 12:02 PM
QUOTE (antistuff @ Wednesday, December 20th, 2006, 12:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
These tables cant be beat. Move up to where they respect your raises.
------------------------------
SSHE in a nutshell ----
1) You can play a little looser than you can at a tight table
2) Be very aggressive on the flop and or turn because the other players will often have good odds to chase. You need
to be making lots of raises and checkraises to ruin thier odds.
3) Suited cards go way up in value. Unsuited broadway goes down. Sklanskly has even argued that raising a hand like AQo
from the SB isnt a great play here with a gazillion limpers (and argued they did, and I think he backed down, but the point
he was trying to make is still valid, I wish i had the threads about this).
4) Value bet the river. If you have any hand and think they will call with a lesser hand bet bet bet bet bet. board qt257 you have at. they
check to you. bet.
hey I shoulda wrote this like 5 years ago and put it into a pretty red book, i wouldnt be at work right now
------------------------------
SSHE in a nutshell ----
1) You can play a little looser than you can at a tight table
2) Be very aggressive on the flop and or turn because the other players will often have good odds to chase. You need
to be making lots of raises and checkraises to ruin thier odds.
3) Suited cards go way up in value. Unsuited broadway goes down. Sklanskly has even argued that raising a hand like AQo
from the SB isnt a great play here with a gazillion limpers (and argued they did, and I think he backed down, but the point
he was trying to make is still valid, I wish i had the threads about this).
4) Value bet the river. If you have any hand and think they will call with a lesser hand bet bet bet bet bet. board qt257 you have at. they
check to you. bet.
hey I shoulda wrote this like 5 years ago and put it into a pretty red book, i wouldnt be at work right now
make sure to raise your big draws in multi way pots when you have an equity edge.
#7
Posted 22 December 2006 - 01:27 PM
All good points, most players start in these games, some get stuck there. Just keep your head up and don't let the sick beats get to you.
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