Balloon guy 158 Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 Balloon Guy has $44.87villian has $127.34dealt to Balloon Guy UTG+1 (Q K T J )UTG callsI clicked pot and raise and found my pot bet didn't hit right so I end up with a raise to $24 callers pot [$11]flop [9 3 Q ]check I pot [$11.50]villian pots back $34.50My play call all in or fold?top end of a wrap, top pair and back door flush. Is this a standard call all in or can I assume I'm up against QQ or 99 and fold here?My min raise really screwed up me identifiying other players much. Link to post Share on other sites
Naked_Cowboy 0 Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 Balloon Guy has $44.87villian has $127.34dealt to Balloon Guy UTG+1 (Q K T J )UTG callsI clicked pot and raise and found my pot bet didn't hit right so I end up with a raise to $24 callers pot [$11]flop [9 3 Q ]check I pot [$11.50]villian pots back $34.50My play call all in or fold?top end of a wrap, top pair and back door flush. Is this a standard call all in or can I assume I'm up against QQ or 99 and fold here?My min raise really screwed up me identifiying other players much.You're between 41% and 49% to win the high if you're against the worst case scenario (a set) depending on which set he has. If he has a viable low (he more than likely does, unless he was on something like A33K), your EE is between 37% and 44% or so in those worst case, but most likely, scenarios. In short, you're priced in based on your flop pot. If your position is good, I don't hate checking behind to see what comes off on the turn. Then you can get away from the hand for $2 instead of slightly worse than a coin flip for $45 (assuming worst case scenario). If you do hit the turn hard, you're probably still getting paid off if he has a set. Link to post Share on other sites
JacKingOff_suit 0 Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 Your stack is low, you have dead money in the pot, and you are out of position.You have 70% chance against a set but it's about a coin flip, and you have 30% chance against similar but could be inferior draws and that makes you from a slight favorite to big favorite.What are you waiting for? Link to post Share on other sites
bassplayer45459 0 Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 Early in a tourney i can fold this, cash game i am going to call here. I like having the top pair, my money is on he has a weak set or a lower wrap, top two could be a possibility as well, either way you are in good shape with how much money you already have in there. Link to post Share on other sites
checkymcfold 0 Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 i instacall.you're not far behind a set, and if he has 2p you're looking at an insane number of redraw outs and are possibly WAY ahead. Link to post Share on other sites
Balloon guy 158 Posted December 14, 2006 Author Share Posted December 14, 2006 I did call, villian had A299, which is about the worst I could expect, we chopped when he made low and I made a heart flush.I kind of made this play by 'feel' meaning I didn't know the numbers but it seems a high wrap like this with little low possiblities is a good one to try to pick up right away. Link to post Share on other sites
Naked_Cowboy 0 Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 I did call, villian had A299, which is about the worst I could expect, we chopped when he made low and I made a heart flush.I kind of made this play by 'feel' meaning I didn't know the numbers but it seems a high wrap like this with little low possiblities is a good one to try to pick up right away.yeah, the first set of odds i ran was exactly A299 vs your hand, and your EE was the mid - low 40s, obv enough to put it in. good instinct, etc. Link to post Share on other sites
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