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[akishore]

8/16 six maxUTG is not a maniac but is very aggro with a hand. For example, he three-bet a J-high flop with AJo after I check-raised, I capped, turn brick, I bet, and he still raised ui. Also peels somewhat loosely with overcards. Raising range preflop is probably standard, and he does cbet.MP is a fish. Complete calling station overall, but has a tendency to bluff with bet/folds occasionally. Not sure exactly how that applies here but some food for thought.Hero is Button with As Ts.UTG raises, MP cold-calls, ..., Hero cold-calls, ..., BB calls.(8.5 sb, 4 plrs) Ah 8h 4dBB checks, UTG bets, MP raises, Hero ...Don't care much about preflop, I know three-betting is an obvious option but I didn't like my hand compared to UTG's range.Is the flop a three-bet or a cold-call, and if the latter specifically, why and what's the plan if UTG three-bets, and if the former, what's the plan if one of them caps? And what's the plan on the turn? (e.g. heart, A, 8, 4, brick, etc.)Thanks,Aseem

[Zach6668]

Umm... what are UTG's preflop tendencies? Any reads on those?Beyond that, this flop is interesting and very tough to play.Damn SH is soooo reads based. I think we are a bit too strong to fold here, cold calling sucks as a general rule, most of the time. With the information we have, I think I'd like to 3 bet. The beauty about this is that we have position on the turn.Say we 3-bet, and it gets called in one or two spots, I'd usually bet a non heart if checked to, definitely bet a T, probably bet/fold in each of these spots though, same with an 8 or a 4.If it gets capped by either player, obviously we are seeing the turn. Also, in any event, I'm folding for 2 cold on the turn.If UTG caps, and it's one bet to us on the turn, I may be more inclined to call down, as he could be overplaying something else again. Pot will be pretty big. We'd be getting 5ish to 1 to call down. I would raise if we spike a T.If MP caps, I'd be more inclined to fold the turn UI as per your read of him being less aggro than UTG.***********As an aside, how do we feel about just calling, contrary to my thoughts above, and seeing if UTG 3-bets, and if MP caps? The only thing I'm worried about there is if UTG senses our call as weakness and 3-bets worse than us, although given his UTG raising range, we are prolly way behind... thoughts?- Zach

[CoranMoran]

The problem with playing AT preflop to 2 bets is the obvious threat of being dominated.The Ace falls on the flop, and your opponents tell you that you are dominated by facing you with 2 more bets.This is not a pretty situation.Having said that, if I insist on continuing with this hand, I will 3bet.It will probably allow us to see a cheaper showdown if we are able to take control of the hand.--CM