Flushgarden 0 Posted December 2, 2006 Share Posted December 2, 2006 Say you build your BR up significantly from where you started, and then you have a big unexpected expense and you need to withdraw a good portion of what you have. Do you have to move all the way down and play within "proper" limits for your BR, or can you play a bit higher...at levels you have consistantly beaten, but dont quite have the BR for right now. I'm not talking about 2 or 3 buyins, but maybe 10 or 15. (180 SNGs mostly) Is it still too risky? Link to post Share on other sites
James D 0 Posted December 2, 2006 Share Posted December 2, 2006 Not really because managing your bankroll is the most important thing.So even though it may be frustrating, as you know that you have beaten higher games, it doesn't pay to play out of your variance limits. Link to post Share on other sites
kkot 0 Posted December 2, 2006 Share Posted December 2, 2006 Can you replenish your bankroll if you go broke?I'm sort of doing the same thing by playing $1/2 with under 200BB, but I think with bonus and rakeback I think (hope) I should be good. Link to post Share on other sites
checkymcfold 0 Posted December 2, 2006 Share Posted December 2, 2006 this was the case with me for a very long time. i played within my br for most of my hands but was completely willing to take shots at bigger games almost every time they looked juicy.i'm almost back to where i should be playing after doing that for about 3-4 months.good luck! Link to post Share on other sites
Sluggo 0 Posted December 2, 2006 Share Posted December 2, 2006 You can play. It's not too risky. Link to post Share on other sites
finztotheleft 0 Posted December 3, 2006 Share Posted December 3, 2006 Go for it...........just drop down if you go on a bad run. Link to post Share on other sites
BudBundy 0 Posted December 3, 2006 Share Posted December 3, 2006 My skill level is lower than my BR Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted December 3, 2006 Share Posted December 3, 2006 Since my BR is whatever cash value my FPPs have, and that's all, my skill is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than my BR.Having said that, I'm accepting stakes to play 1/2 or 2/4 LHE on AP. $500 will suffice, unless you want to jump me right to 2/4, then I can play with $1000. kthx. Link to post Share on other sites
BudBundy 0 Posted December 3, 2006 Share Posted December 3, 2006 Since my BR is whatever cash value my FPPs have, and that's all, my skill is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than my BR.Having said that, I'm accepting stakes to play 1/2 or 2/4 LHE on AP. $500 will suffice, unless you want to jump me right to 2/4, then I can play with $1000. kthx.can you wait 10 days tops? Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted December 3, 2006 Share Posted December 3, 2006 can you wait 10 days tops?I'm so mad about this whole busto thing. I was planning on grinding like 1000000 hands in December since I had no school. I'm forgoing soooo much money by sucking at life in other monetary areas....lolI can wait, if I don't find anything beforehand, is what I'm trying to say. Link to post Share on other sites
qyayqi 12 Posted December 3, 2006 Share Posted December 3, 2006 what does a person get for backing you, zach? Link to post Share on other sites
IQCrash 1 Posted December 3, 2006 Share Posted December 3, 2006 what does a person get for backing you, zach?Head? Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted December 3, 2006 Share Posted December 3, 2006 what does a person get for backing you, zach?Standard deal is 50% of poker profits, I would imagine, although 100% risk assumed, but ideally, I would just like to be rolled for whatever level, like say 1/2 full, so 250 bb's is enough, and then play for a set amount of time, or until my BR reaches a set amount, say 1500, for example, and then refund the base $500 + 50% of the profit, or whatever...In actuality, that is such an amazing deal in terms of ROR for the backer, you're looking at 100% ROR in a short time frame, assuming no massive downswings. I know I can beat full ring LHE, plus there's RB and bonuses from AP to counteract any downswing, so being properly rolled at 250-300 bbs = 0.05% of going broke, or whatever the risk of ruin calculation would be.lol, if there's enough interest, which there probably won't be, and I'm just begging because I'm desperate, there should be bidding to see how low I can get the % of profits, lol. As it is, from my experiences, standard is usually 50% anyways, using a timeframe, or certain amount limit, it's not like 50% forever.(Same can be applied for 2/4 with a roll of 1k).Head?not quite that desperate. yet... Link to post Share on other sites
BudBundy 0 Posted December 3, 2006 Share Posted December 3, 2006 I can wait, if I don't find anything beforehand, is what I'm trying to say.I am just waiting for my rakeback and clearing a few bonuses.I am not promising anything but its a good deal and deffo worth consideration.How do you sort the trust issue? Link to post Share on other sites
mikeysong 0 Posted December 3, 2006 Share Posted December 3, 2006 I can vouch for Zach on one occassion.He played the $530 Stars WCOOP, or however much it was, the first one, and I bought part of him. He placed in the money and sent me back my money with no problems. Link to post Share on other sites
Actuary 3 Posted December 3, 2006 Share Posted December 3, 2006 Pay me 1/5 of what you give to Zach, up to $1500 stake. (it's a fee)I'll insure the return of money. (the stake, not my 20%)So, for you to get screwed, Zach would have to not pay and I would have to not pay.oh, and Zach, you would pay the staker, I'm just backup.you can trust Zach, but any doubts, pay me 20% juice. You'll still profit..Zach, I missed the story... I guess it's related to living away from home, and expenses adding up? Link to post Share on other sites
BudBundy 0 Posted December 3, 2006 Share Posted December 3, 2006 Pay me 1/5 of what you give to Zach, up to $1500 stake. (it's a fee)I'll insure the return of money. (the stake, not my 20%)So, for you to get screwed, Zach would have to not pay and I would have to not pay.oh, and Zach, you would pay the staker, I'm just backup.you can trust Zach, but any doubts, pay me 20% juice. You'll still profit..Zach, I missed the story... I guess it's related to living away from home, and expenses adding up?Take my money back from the books guy and i will give you %20 juice. Link to post Share on other sites
Abbaddabba 0 Posted December 3, 2006 Share Posted December 3, 2006 The kind of loan you're talking about requires more detail.50% can be a complete rip off to both sides.50% of what you win after 1 session is a terrible deal for the guy loaning.50% of a years worth of play is a rip off to the player.Why not just agree to a set interest rate over a set period of time? I dont make e-loans. But for people who do, that's probably the best route to take.With respect to the original topic title,Almost very single poker player in the world thinks that their skill level is higher than their "bankroll". The vast, vast, vast majority of them are wrong. Link to post Share on other sites
Actuary 3 Posted December 3, 2006 Share Posted December 3, 2006 Take my money back from the books guy and i will give you %20 juice.I figured he had, since I did not see a thread about it Link to post Share on other sites
BudBundy 0 Posted December 3, 2006 Share Posted December 3, 2006 I figured he had, since I did not see a thread about itI am a patient guy.I give him one more week then you will see a thread about it. Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted December 3, 2006 Share Posted December 3, 2006 Zach, I missed the story... I guess it's related to living away from home, and expenses adding up?Mostly.lol at you trying to make juice.************Agreed with Abba with respect to his thing. Interest is a good idea, I think the timeframe, or total amount thing can be a decent alternative though, as outlined in my above post. Link to post Share on other sites
zsta2k6 0 Posted December 3, 2006 Share Posted December 3, 2006 Mostly.lol at you trying to make juice.************Agreed with Abba with respect to his thing. Interest is a good idea, I think the timeframe, or total amount thing can be a decent alternative though, as outlined in my above post.I'd be willing to back you $500... if you are interested PM me... Only thing, is I have it on FCP, and dont have neteller. So, unless I can transfer it to you via FCP, I cant. Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted December 3, 2006 Share Posted December 3, 2006 I'd be willing to back you $500... if you are interested PM me... Only thing, is I have it on FCP, and dont have neteller. So, unless I can transfer it to you via FCP, I cant.Thanks for the offer, I got something worked out though. Link to post Share on other sites
mikeysong 0 Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 flush gardenwho's that girl in ur avatar Link to post Share on other sites
bdc30 0 Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 Who here (aside from Al Smooth) DOESN'T think that their skill level exceeds their bankroll??If I'm honest with myself I know I'm not good enough to play a WPT tourney or whatever, but it sure looks easy on tv, doesn't it????? (do i really need an sw?) Link to post Share on other sites
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