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[TruePoker]

I was playing today in a £10 buy in tournament and was playing quite good, lost a hand early to pocket A's slow played but doubled up a couple times to give me a healthy amount of chips when suddenly everything went totally wrong and I was booted out of the tournament.With AK suited I raised around 3 times the blind ( I am new to this game so I thought that was right to entice some players to play but big enough to boot out the blinds and people with junk ). This guy then raised all in, he had played quite loosely throughout the time I spent with him at the table so thought he could have any Ace or perhaps a pair, maybe even QK if I was lucky.We were the only 2 players so the cards were turned up, and I saw myself against 99. I knew I was maybe 50/50 for this pot, but then a King came on the flop and I knew that he only had a couple of outs at both the turn and the river. The turn brought up an Ace so it was my 2 pair against his 9's and at this stage only a 9 would have given him the game. At this point I was shouting at the screen to not bring up a 9 but it was inevitable. The Bad Beat Queen was looking down on me and smiling. Just wondering if this was the right play, should I have raised slightly more to begin with or what?If anyone could enlighten me I would be happy!P.S. Another quick question : Say I am on a semi-tight table holding a low pair, what kind of bet / raise should I put in preflop if in Early position. Am I trying to steal blinds with this and putting in a huge bet hoping either one or no people play or do I just fold them away?

[jack24bauer24]

Its always a bad beat when you aren't favored to win the hand anyways.

[TruePoker]

Wow, Sorry, calm down. Didn't realise everyone here was a comedian.

[jack24bauer24]

I'm calm, I don't get upset over bad beats when I'm behind.Thats how one could get quite uncalm.

[Eskimo]

I think it depends on your chip stack.If he's putting you all-in, then fold. If not, i'd call.

[TruePoker]

Eddie, I think you are not helpful.

[KDawgCometh]

TruePoker said:

Eddie, I think you are not helpful.

you've only just begun to see what ticklemeeddie has to offer when it comes to tourny advice

[Vade]

I would have raised more to start withHow many chips did he have?If it was a massive amount, then you have to fold.If you can afford it, AK is a decent hand to call an all in with especially against a loose playerPoint is, don't endanger your tournament life with AKSecond question: Don't try to steal blinds with small pairsEarly position with 22-55 in a tournament is a limpEarly position with 66 or better is probably worth a raise

[markii]

bad luck would be a better turn for hitting top two pair, and the other guy hitting his 2 outer for trips. But just as frustrating as a bad beat.

[jack24bauer24]

Vade said:

I would have raised more to start withHow many chips did he have?If it was a massive amount, then you have to fold.If you can afford it, AK is a decent hand to call an all in with especially against a loose playerPoint is, don't endanger your tournament life with AKSecond question: Don't try to steal blinds with small pairsEarly position with 22-55 in a tournament is a limpEarly position with 66 or better is probably worth a raise

I don't know why you'd raise 66-88 if you aren't raising 22-55.With 66-88 what are you going to do if you are reraised, or if there are all over cards on the flop? You'd be in the same position as having 22-55 and having raised preflop.Just curious as to your reasoning.

[Eskimo]

XXEddie said:

your gonna fold AKs against a loose player just because he has you covered

Absolutely.

[AK33]

I'm not folding AK when a loose cannon reraises me all in, I'll call 90% of the time. I might let it go early in a tournament to put my money in with a better situation. Also Jack is right, it's not a bad beat when 99 is favored over AK, not by much but AK is a slight dog. Low pp's are worth a cheap flop. I wouldn't raise in early position, late maybe but early forget it. ~Slick~

[Swift_Psycho]

KDawgCometh said:

TruePoker said:

Eddie, I think you are not helpful.

you've only just begun to see what ticklemeeddie has to offer when it comes to tourny advice

Indeed.

[jack24bauer24]

I'd folk ag against a crazy player if he's got me covered and I'm in no danger of being blinded out any time soon, my stack is healthy, etc. Calling all in with ak is usually a poor play, especially when the other player has you covered.AK off suit is 62% against 27 suited.I don't think I want to risk a good stack with those odds, would you? Thats poor poker.And if it was a cash game, .50-1 NL and I knew the other guy had 27 suited and I had ak, I wouldn't go all in for a one time deal.

[Trono]

AK losing to 99 is not a bad beat.

[Vade]

jack24bauer24 said:

Vade said:

I would have raised more to start withHow many chips did he have?If it was a massive amount, then you have to fold.If you can afford it, AK is a decent hand to call an all in with especially against a loose playerPoint is, don't endanger your tournament life with AKSecond question: Don't try to steal blinds with small pairsEarly position with 22-55 in a tournament is a limpEarly position with 66 or better is probably worth a raise

I don't know why you'd raise 66-88 if you aren't raising 22-55.With 66-88 what are you going to do if you are reraised, or if there are all over cards on the flop? You'd be in the same position as having 22-55 and having raised preflop.Just curious as to your reasoning.

I know it seems odd, but 66-88 have a chance to be an overpair on a flop. They are also part of more straights then the little pairs.Yeah, these probably aren't very good reasons but...um...they're mine?