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[CobaltBlue]

Bodog 20/40 LHE (6-handed)Hand 1: CO raises, Villain 3-bets in BB and ends up winning with 52o when he hits a wheelHand 2: I raise A9o in the CO, Villain 3-bets in the SB and ends up playing aggressively to the river (bet/3-betting the flop) where he check/calls w/ J2s (BPMK) against my SPTK.So we've seen that villain is willing to 3-bet junk out of blinds and get a little out of line on the flop. How significantly does this affect our pre-flop capping range?

[CoranMoran]

I had commented about my thoughts on this topic on another post a while ago.When my preflop raise is 3bet from a blind, I very often cap vs an unknown.When against a loose opponent like yours, I see no reason not to do it every time.Downside:- you spend 1 extra small bet in situations where you are very possibly behind and maybe even dominated.Upside:- you will often be checked to on the flop and/or turn (either out of caution or in an attempt to check-raise), so you can take a free card and easily make up the extra bet you spent preflop.- you gain value from the loose players, especially when you hit your hand.All-in-all, you risk very little by capping preflop with position.Aganist a loose player, I would suggest capping with anything that was good enough to raise with in the first place.Just my thoughts.--CM

[CobaltBlue]

Coran, I was actually talking with Mikey about this and he said that he could see capping all the way down to 87s. I think that's a little extreme. I'd prefer a good Q or better. That said, he actually preferred not capping and just playing position/getting the guy to bluff of chips post-flop...calling him down with A-high and the like.I probably should cap more than I do, but I don't run across opponents like this all the time.

[CoranMoran]

CobaltBlue, on Monday, December 4th, 2006, 8:24 AM, said:

Coran, I was actually talking with Mikey about this and he said that he could see capping all the way down to 87s. I think that's a little extreme. I'd prefer a good Q or better. That said, he actually preferred not capping and just playing position/getting the guy to bluff of chips post-flop...calling him down with A-high and the like.I probably should cap more than I do, but I don't run across opponents like this all the time.

Interesting ideas..But passively calling down every street every time when you miss just has to be a bad idea (even against such an opopnent).To work with A high, you would have to be ahead to start, and both of his undercards would have to miss 5 times.It sure seems that for every time this does work, it will lose several more times.It is also more expensive than capping preflop and taking control of the hand.(Assuming villain isn't donk-betting you every street.)On a side note, I probably don't open raise with my 87s against a blind who will likely be calling my raise with something like KT.So I stick with my idea of capping with anything that was worth open raising with in the first place.It's done for value and control.--CM

[Shimmering Wang]

I'm with Coran on this one. I change my raising standards, and cap with any raising hand. I would also slow down with drawing hands if he's willing to go crazy.Wang