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[AUBrandon]

So I qualified for the cruise this year, and it was a blast! I'm not used to limit multis, but I figured I might could hang for a while. Early in the tournament I was slowly working my stack, up from 10,000 to around 12,000 after the first 2 hour break. I found some trouble later and was forced to get em all in with A5... Well, the board was A x x x, the other guy having A 10.... I was lucky enough to spike a 5 on the river!! A short time after that, we were moved and I found myself sittin on only 4,400 with blinds somewhere around 300/600. At my new table I managed to get up to around 10,000 or so then was moved again. I went on an absolute rush, moving up to 28,000 in just a couple hours... My cards soon ran cold though, and I finished the day with 16,000, which was about 200th place out of the remaining 280 players, with top 180 getting money. I knew day 2 would be tough for me, blinds starting at 500/1,000. I wasn't going to play "scared" poker and hope to just cruise into the money, folding almost every hand. Well day 2 came, and I was at a table with a bunch of online qualifiers like me, except for seat 3. In this seat was Paul Darden, with a respectible stack of close to 40,000. I was paying close attention and noticed him raise utg with q j os.... Well he was running good at the time so I figured he was trying to run over the table, and he was doing a nice job of that. I got involved in a bad hand with a guy where the board was J 10 x x with 2 hearts when I had K Q , so alot of my stack diminished when I failed to hit anything there. With maybe 220 ppl or so left, I was in deep trouble... I was in the small blind with only enough chips left to complete.... It comes around to Paul and he bumps it... Folded around to me, I look down at K Q .... Of course since I was short stacked and Paul was being aggressive, I called the rest, hoping the bb would fold... He did just that and Paul turned over 10 J os.... Early position raise with 10 J os?? Well, he's the pro not me... maybe he knows what he's doing... Well the flop was ugly... J x x... the turn brought an Ace, leaving me with 9 outs, K Q or 10.... A beautiful Queen hit the river and I was still alive, tripling my tiny stack.... Now here's the hand I want some opinions on... blinds are at 1,000/2,000, I think there were 192 ppl left, I only have 4,500.... Play will go hand for hand when there are 189 ppl left, so stalling is no good for anyone.... Paul is UTG and raises AGAIN! It is folded to me, and I look down at A J ... He was in seat 3 and I was in seat 7 by the way. So considering Paul's earlier loose raises utg and the size of his stack permitting it, I was faced with a difficult decision. My tournament life was at stake here. What would you do??? I'll write again later with the results of the hand... peace, Brandon

[Vade]

I think folding is fineWhy?You have enough to survive a full round of blindsAJ suited is a moderate hand in a limit game, and it's been raised before you(don't forget even if Paul Darden is making loosish raises, but he could just as easily have two Aces)You can find a better spot

[looshle]

Well it all depends on your situation. Why's it hand for hand with so many people left? Is it because it's the nearing the end of the day? If there's money involved in making it to the 189, which I highly doubt because that's still a ton of people, and you want to make sure you get paid, then I think folding is right. Everyone's situatuion is different financially. If you are aiming to squeak in to the top 189 then I'd say you fold. If you're playing for 1st, it's an easy call.

[KDawgCometh]

Honestly I think popping it up is a good idea. You want to isolate Paul and your hand will generally rate to be better than his. Since your hand for hand folding might not be the best option as you could still end up bubbled out while getting blinded out. There is a chance that he would just fold and then you could fold your way into the $$$ hopefully

[looshle]

Honestly I think popping it up is a good idea.The blinds are 1000/2000, so if it's raised he had to make it 4000. We only have 4500 left, so there's no isolating or fold equity.

[KDawgCometh]

looshle said:

Honestly I think popping it up is a good idea.The blinds are 1000/2000, so if it's raised he had to make it 4000. We only have 4500 left, so there's no isolating or fold equity.

are those the blinds or limits. I thought those were the limits

[Jubba]

If you're just trying to sneak into the money, then fold. But if you're attempting to double up then you have to push now because if you fold and the blinds come around, your stack isn't significan't enough even if you do double up.

[AUBrandon]

blinds were 1,000/2,000, limits 2,000/4,000... hand for hand play would start with 189 ppl left until 180 is left, and top 180 get paid... Even though I could have folded through 1 more round, this would not have made me the money. Hand for hand play was about to kick in and people were getting into folding mode when they were short-stacked in hopes of making the money, and I recall that it was about an hour after this hand when 180 was hit... There wasn't much of a better spot to look for really, only in my opinion... In 10 to 15 more hands I may have never gotten a hand that good. On top of this, Paul was playing loose aggressive for the most part, so I knew if I could win this hand, I should have been able to make the money. But the way I figured it, I did need one more double up to assure this...sooooo... I threw in my last 4,500 and everyone else folded to him. He tossed in a 500 chip and flipped up 2 red queens...YUK!! If it would have been anyone but him I may have thrown it away, but I didn't. There was some hope on the flop when a jack came, but it blanked out and that was the end of my tournament.... I talked to a few players about the hand afterwards and most of them said they would have made the same play. I have no regrets about the hand, I feel like I played it correctly, though I'm sure some disagree... I ended up about 191 or 192.. But oh well, theres always next year!

[akishore]

i'm not sure if you've posted the results, but i haven't looked.push.if you did push, which i'm guessing you did, you played right.isolate paul (lag) and hope to double up. you don't have enough to squeak into the money with hand-by-hand play, and even if you do, you said that wasn't your goal.aseem