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[CobaltBlue]

Bodog 2/3 NLHE (6-handed)

MP $254
Cobalt $351
SB $336
BB $668

Cobalt is CO w/ 5 3 . MP has been raising fairly frequently pre-flop. I've been staying out of his way up until this point. The table has been playing fairly loose. Pots are very rarely raised/called and then re-raised pre-flop. SB and BB are quite loose and bad.

Pre-flop:
1 fold, MP raises to $11, Cobalt calls, 2 folds, BB calls

Flop ($35): 2 8 4 (3 players)
BB checks, MP bets $35, Cobalt raises to $95


Reasonable?

[Jordan]

i dont hate it...not 100% in love with it though.

whats betting the pot mean to you here? is that standard for him or a diff bet? if it's diff. than usual and you think he is bullying then i like the idea of the raise...if you think he has a hand i might be more inclined to call and hope to turn the str8, or if he checks, try and steal it if he checks the turn...im pretty sure if you call the flop and he checks the turn the pot is yours.

- Jordan

[cwik]

lol, I hate calling here on the flop (stacks just arn't deep enough, and would only make sense if you thought he had a big pair he couldn't get away form). I actually don't like calling preflop, but if you have a pretty good read here and don't think he has a pair, the reraise is ok. Infact if your calling preflop, without the intentions of reraiseing on that flop, there is NO way you should be in this hand in the first place. You have to hate a call (though you'll probabley get to check it down if he does) and need to fold to a push (I think, maybe you have odds, but if you do you put yourself in a very bad position). I wouldn't even call this a semibluff as I really doubt this hand is ever going to the river. Hoped it worked out.

Note I would not get in the habit of makeing this move.

[ChrisRichey]

I love the call pf, especially against the villain you described. I like the raise too, but it would be nice to have a read as far as his betting pattern on the flop. Nice hand, I say.

[CobaltBlue]

i dont hate it...not 100% in love with it though.

whats betting the pot mean to you here? is that standard for him or a diff bet? if it's diff. than usual and you think he is bullying then i like the idea of the raise...if you think he has a hand i might be more inclined to call and hope to turn the str8

I didn't have as good of a bet-size read as I'd like to, but I find that at this level a vast majority of the time that people c-bet the pot, they're weak. If I thought he actually had a good hand, I would've just flat-called.

and need to fold to a push (I think, maybe you have odds, but if you do you put yourself in a very bad position).

Yeah, it'd be close...I would've put myself in a toughish spot. My intention with the raise size was to leave myself room to fold to a push.

[mk]

if you think he's weak, i think a call will slow him down enough to define things better on the turn. you can most likely take the pot if he checks it to you, or take a free card, although i think betting would be better. i'm just not sure what you're representing here (a set probably smooths on a raggedy board like that...maybe a hand like 77/66/55?) that will get him to muck a real hand in the case that he actually has one.

[CobaltBlue]

if you think he's weak, i think a call will slow him down enough to define things better on the turn. you can most likely take the pot if he checks it to you, or take a free card, although i think betting would be better. i'm just not sure what you're representing here (a set probably smooths on a raggedy board like that...maybe a hand like 77/66/55?) that will get him to muck a real hand in the case that he actually has one.

Hm. I don't mind y'all's suggestion of calling the flop and betting a checked turn. My only problem with it is that if he's c-betting with overs and hits one on the turn, we just gave up a very winnable pot by not raising the flop. I suppose that's not extremely likely, but it does add a wrinkle.

As for what I'm representing, point well taken. If I thought my opponent were deeper level thinking, I'd certainly need to consider that.

He actually called the flop, an ace popped on the turn, and he shoved. Figured I was going to have to dodge a paired river, but he flipped up TT and was drawing dead. He kind of bitched me out after the hand.

[JacKingOff_suit]

MP has been raising fairly frequently pre-flop. I've been staying out of his way

I don't like your raise on the flop, and I dislike MP's moves even more.

Even Zach-the-12 can think and play better than you guys, I think.

[David_Nicoson]

Bodog 2/3 NLHE (6-handed)

MP $254
Cobalt $351
SB $336
BB $668

Cobalt is CO w/ 5 3 . MP has been raising fairly frequently pre-flop. I've been staying out of his way up until this point. The table has been playing fairly loose. Pots are very rarely raised/called and then re-raised pre-flop. SB and BB are quite loose and bad.

Pre-flop:
1 fold, MP raises to $11, Cobalt calls, 2 folds, BB calls

Flop ($35): 2 8 4 (3 players)
BB checks, MP bets $35, Cobalt raises to $95
Reasonable?

Sure, why not? He's going to have unpaired overcards a lot.

[Royal_Tour]

ya, i dont hate it. since i've done it so many times.

My only issue with these plays lately have been suck outs.

where i raise, and villain must feel committed to call the raise or something and they call, then they hit a miracle on the turn and proceed to donk call me down with a weak pair.

My new line has been "do you just close your eyes and pray? honestly?"

[AcesUp46]

I like.