4 Handed

[Jordan 1]

edit -- first posted this in lhe, but then remembered the shlhe forum...30/60 4 handedvillian is bad...calls down with crap...usually very agg with draws on flop...but will slow down on turn if he goes unimproved.hero sb w 8 9 utg(villian) raise, i call in sb, bb (other donk) calls in bbFLOP :: J 7 5 i check, bb bets, villian raise, i 3 bet, bb caps (all in -- not quite for the max...), villian call, i callTURN :: 7 i check, villian checks...RIV :: Q i check and quit since obv i have to beat BB hand to win anything...---im more interested in flop/turn play..sux being OOP...anyone lead though in keeping with the sick aggression you need short handed? when he checked behind im pretty sure he was weak..but then having a third player all in on the flop kinda sucke.d..the line i was hoping to take on the flop was c/r the villian and cap if needed, and then lead the turn even if i'm UI...and if I hit go for a check/raisestill not sure on best line for the times we hit the turn against a agg. opponent who may raise a lead and then we can get a 3bet in, but will almost always call down if we do lead...and usually bet if checked to.thoughts or just standarddrd?- Jordan

[Zach6668 513]

I replied in your LHE post, you donk.

[TB17 0]

bad call in SB. 3 or fold, depending on how the OG raiser is. You seem to know about the aggression needed in SHLHE so i don't really need to explain why.I probably spew and lead all streets early on if I want to obtain a really aggressive image, but I like your line here.

[mikeysong 0]

I don't like the flop play only because BB is shortstacked. Let's say you all have like 10bbs worth in front, then I like the check-raisevillain will c-bet over 90% of the timeyour check-raise on the flop isolatesand your action from then on I would hope would be: bet turn, bet river hoping he folds his A highotherwise, u played it fine, I would've simply called w/bb shortstacked there

[CoranMoran 0]

I fold preflop.98s is not a hand I want to play short handed, out of position, to a raise.After the flop, with BB all in, I see no reason to bet.I check the turn.And would check-fold the river.--CM

[iggymcfly 0]

Yeah, you don't want to be doing a lot of cold-calling in the SB. Your best move is just to fold this preflop. I'll occasionally cold-call playing 15/30 with the 2/3 blind structure, but with a 1/2 structure, I never do it unless it's a big multi-way FR pot or something. The turn and river pretty much play themselves since there's no side pot and you've got no shot at the main.

[mrdannyg 274]

4-handed i'd generally 3-bet from SB, but i suck at SH. folding is probably better.flop is fine IMO, despite BB being all-in. we're fine getting all the money in on the flop, with our yummy equity. it doesn't really matter, if we feel the BB is short enough that he'll go all-in even if we hit our draw.after that, i like slowing down on the flop and turn. often i'll lead this turn, but with BB all in, we can't win much without a showdown, and our fold equity has almost no value. since button rarely folds any of our outs, and we no longer have an equity advantage against him (presumably), betting is pointless.

[pokerplayer24 0]

Fold pre.Postflop looks good.

[CobaltBlue 662]

I replied in your LHE post, you donk.

QFT. I was like..."Where's my response? Ohh...the jack arse double-posted."Here's what I wrote before I read responses:

Jordan, this is typically a fold pre-flop. Short-handed as we are, we're looking for "big cards". Suited connectors are cheap, volume starting hands that are ideally played IP. Being in the SB, I'm almost always 3-betting or folding against one player (LP raiser). I believe I've learned that concept correctly, but someone else feel free to chime in.Assuming we cold-call pre-flop (which has the benefits of dragging the BB along and letting us play against a bad villain), I think I'm with the others in wanting to lead the flop and 3-bet/cap if necessary.As for plans on hitting, our straights are obviously a lot sneakier than our flushes. The problem is that based on our button opponent and the all-in player's cap, I think we're better off leading any turn that we hit...cause he's quite likely to check behind.