ROGUE06 0 Posted November 19, 2006 Share Posted November 19, 2006 Basically I flop 3 pair, hit a boat on the turn, and have the nuts aslong as one of the two opponents doesn't have both of the remaining aces, thus making me draw dead. Bad play? to call raise on flop? turn?PokerStars Game #7084289484: Tournament #35678688, $10+$1 Omaha Pot Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2006/11/19 - 02:33:36 (ET)Table '35678688 10' 9-max Seat #3 is the buttonSeat 1: OldGlassEye2 (1720 in chips) Seat 2: Gabbergal (1440 in chips) Seat 3: doubledosed (520 in chips) Seat 4: ECF22181 (1480 in chips) Seat 5: ROGUE06 (1460 in chips) Seat 6: Washburn32 (1140 in chips) Seat 7: allinanimal (2760 in chips) Seat 8: dieselman69 (1480 in chips) Seat 9: WinsomeSmile (1500 in chips) ECF22181: posts small blind 10ROGUE06: posts big blind 20*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to ROGUE06 [4d Ah 9h Js]Washburn32: calls 20allinanimal: folds dieselman69: calls 20WinsomeSmile: folds OldGlassEye2: calls 20Gabbergal: calls 20doubledosed: folds ECF22181: calls 10ROGUE06: checks *** FLOP *** [4s 9c As]ECF22181: checks ROGUE06: checks Washburn32: bets 120dieselman69: folds OldGlassEye2: raises 230 to 350Gabbergal: folds ECF22181: folds ROGUE06: calls 350Washburn32: calls 230*** TURN *** [4s 9c As] [9d]ROGUE06: checks Washburn32: bets 770 and is all-inOldGlassEye2: calls 770ROGUE06: raises 320 to 1090 and is all-inOldGlassEye2: calls 320*** RIVER *** [4s 9c As 9d] [2h]*** SHOW DOWN ***ROGUE06: shows [4d Ah 9h Js] (a full house, Nines full of Aces)OldGlassEye2: shows [Ad Ac Jh 8s] (a full house, Aces full of Nines)OldGlassEye2 collected 640 from side potWashburn32: shows [Qh Ks Qs 6d] (two pair, Queens and Nines)OldGlassEye2 collected 3480 from main potdoubledosed said, "nh"*** SUMMARY ***Total pot 4120 Main pot 3480. Side pot 640. | Rake 0 Board [4s 9c As 9d 2h]Seat 1: OldGlassEye2 showed [Ad Ac Jh 8s] and won (4120) with a full house, Aces full of NinesSeat 2: Gabbergal folded on the FlopSeat 3: doubledosed (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 4: ECF22181 (small blind) folded on the FlopSeat 5: ROGUE06 (big blind) showed [4d Ah 9h Js] and lost with a full house, Nines full of AcesSeat 6: Washburn32 showed [Qh Ks Qs 6d] and lost with two pair, Queens and NinesSeat 7: allinanimal folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 8: dieselman69 folded on the FlopSeat 9: WinsomeSmile folded before Flop (didn't bet) Link to post Share on other sites
dingas 0 Posted November 19, 2006 Share Posted November 19, 2006 With a bet and raise in front of you, I think you can go ahead and fold the flop. Link to post Share on other sites
BudBundy 0 Posted November 19, 2006 Share Posted November 19, 2006 In paired boards if you are holding one of the pairing cards and there are two more in the pot with aggression its a big possibility that one of them has the higher full.But this is not a cash game i don't know much about tournies.Maybe you shouldn't risk going out at this hand cus you can't just call,get the information,rebuy and take your money back. Link to post Share on other sites
Whiskey16 1 Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 It's a tough spot. I think without a preflop raise, I might not suspect AAxx either, since most people will overplay AA in these types of tourneys.I think with the aggression by the two people preflop, folding the flop is OK, since you're likely behind a set.Once you hit, and there's two people all in and you're holding the second nuts, I don't know if I fold there. There's obviously bad play, as evidenced by the guy holding QQ and still firing/calling that board. Link to post Share on other sites
JacKingOff_suit 0 Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 very easy fold on the flop. Link to post Share on other sites
ROGUE06 0 Posted November 22, 2006 Author Share Posted November 22, 2006 Thanks for the imput guys. I consider myself an above average omaha player but this isn't my primary game soo these comments are very helpful. I too never expected the one player to have AAxx in this hand since there was no raise preflop and only a smooth call on the flop. And like Whiskey said, many players especially in a low limit PLO tourney tend to completely overplay AAxx. Link to post Share on other sites
benhoug 0 Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 very easy fold on the flop.I even like a raise on the flop much more than a call. I still prefer folding, but cold-calling is the worst option. Link to post Share on other sites
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