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#1 Trono

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Posted 29 March 2005 - 12:31 AM

Nothing special, just a great time to have pocket aces.Ultimate Bet 0.25/0.50 Hold'em (9 handed) converterPreflop: Trono is Button with A:diamond:, A:heart:. 2 folds, MP1 calls, MP3 calls, CO calls.Flop: (9.40 SB) 2:diamond:, 4:spade:, A:club: (4 players)MP1 checks, MP3 checks, CO checks, Trono checks.Turn: (4.70 BB) 2:spade: (4 players)MP1 bets, MP1 calls.River: (13.70 BB) 9:diamond: (2 players)MP1 bets, MP1 calls.Final Pot: 17.70 BBResults in white below: Trono has Ad Ah (full house, aces full of twos). MP1 has Kh 2h (three of a kind, twos). Outcome: Trono wins 17.70 BB.

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Posted 29 March 2005 - 12:38 AM

Good input for the strategy section :roll:

#3 Trono

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Posted 29 March 2005 - 12:40 AM

Whoops, wrong section. Too late to delete now though.

#4 wrto4556

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Posted 29 March 2005 - 01:47 AM

its nice to see good hands hold up...bet the flop. :-)
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Posted 29 March 2005 - 01:58 AM

If I had bet the flop, Mr. K 2 wouldn't have stayed and given me his money.

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Posted 29 March 2005 - 02:01 AM

Trono said:

If I had bet the flop, Mr. K 2 wouldn't have stayed and given me his money.
That's results oriented thinking.giving a free card to a one card straight woud suck, no?If the flop was A83 rainbow, checking would be ok, imo. But the board is a little coordinated."Fast playing is the new slowplaying."-Smasharoo
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Posted 29 March 2005 - 02:08 AM

I suppose you're right, it just happened to work out.

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Posted 29 March 2005 - 02:12 AM

fastplaying is the new slowplayingi like that

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Posted 29 March 2005 - 02:31 AM

Trono said:

I suppose you're right, it just happened to work out.
Another reason not to slowplay is the size of the pot. It's generally correct to play your hand for it's true strength in big pots. People will peel one off just to see if they get lucky because the pot is so big.Slowplaying rules by David Sklansky1. You must have a very strong hand.2. The free card or cheap card you are allowing other players to get must have a good possiblity of making them a second best hand.3. That same card must have little chance of making someone a better hand than yours or even giving that person a draw to a better hand than yours on the next round with sufficient odds to justify a call.4. You must be sure you will drive other players out by showing aggression, but you have a good chance of winning a big pot if you don't.5. The pot must not be very large.In this case, number one is true, you have a very strong hand. Number two is not so true, 20% true maybe. Any baby card not on the board could give someone a straight. Number three, under the same principle, is not true. Number four is hardly ever true in small stakes games...which makes slowplaying virtually useless. Number five is not true, the pot is large (10 sb on flop is large, 20 BB on river is large).In general, slowplaying is almost never correct at small limits. This time you won big, but it will not compensate for the times you err by giving cheap cards in large pots.Nice hand, btw.
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Posted 29 March 2005 - 05:29 AM

There he goes again, this time from HEFAP.You keep that book on you, don't you brother?Trono, any post where you include results (even in white) put you immediately on the defensive. You are on the right track slowplaying this flop,A situation where you might want to consider this heavily (even in small stakes) is if the flop has about 6-7 SB in it, and you are bet into with a player behind you. Then you could consider just calling to induce action from the player behind you. Then your action on the turn will be more trivial and will be for more value.Nice hand by the way




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