jazz, anyone?

[akishore 0]

i keep on seeing threads about what music people listen to while playing poker, and i am disappointed to see that none of the posters in those thread are into jazz.i am a monstrous jazz fan, it's all i listen to. i'm wondering if anyone else is into jazz. let me know if you are, we'll talk jazz on this thread.aseem

[MarionSauce 0]

Uhh I don't know much, but back in high school ( I went to an arts school where I majored in piano) we were forced to play, write and improvise jazz, which was probably the most difficult event in the world for a strictly classical player like me. Anyways, thus I got into Oscar, Ella, Miles (the three significant albums), Dizzy, Duke and Coltrane. Its quite interesting and absolutely abound with talent, but I just didn't have that "feel"... yeah doesn't work for the yellow.

[RonBurgundy 0]

yeah doesn't work for the yellow.

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[KDawgCometh 2]

Assem, I started my college career as a Jazz Saxohone major. I'm a massive Sonny Rollins fan, he's who I try to pattern my tone after. I own well over 600 albums. I'd love to talk about some Jazz 8)

[kindofblu 0]

I wouldn't say I'm hardcore into jazz...but I enjoy it.Miles Davis "Kind of Blue" is without a doubt my favorite. Probably the most listen to album in my collection. I could do a whole thread about that one. "Blue Train" and "Time Out" are also getting heavy rotation.

[NormanHaupt 0]

Yeah Miles Davis is about as far as I really ever got into it. Now blues? oh man- I go nuts. But I just never really matured into the Jazz scene.

[Don Giovanni 0]

uh im taking jazz history class right now so im kinda into it. it would be good to listen to during poker. take 5 is my favorite song.

[KDawgCometh 2]

uh im taking jazz history class right now so im kinda into it. it would be good to listen to during poker. take 5 is my favorite song.

meh. West coast Jazz isn't realy my thing. YOu should really check out Lee Morgan's the Rumproller and Search For NewLand or Wayne Shorter's Speak No Evil

[Nikki_N 17]

uh im taking jazz history class right now so im kinda into it. it would be good to listen to during poker. take 5 is my favorite song.

We have that Brubeck CD. I'm not a big jazz fan, but that is a nice album. I like to play it during dinner parties.Nikki

[ChuckSty 0]

akishore,i listen to jazz sometimes. i was studied jazz and improvisational music in college. i'm a bass player so i listen to alot of mingus, but also some of the later coltrane and miles stuff; also wayne shorter, herbie, alot of the miles off shoots. that being said i don't like the weather report or joe zawainul stuff that much.i however these days tend to listen to more experimental stuff, albeit rock, jazz, or electronic. i like noise.but Coltrane's "lonnie's lament" is definitely one of my favorites songs ever.

[TFABOM 0]

Sun Ra's "Space is the Place" DVD is in my Blockbuster Online queue, it's suppose to be an experimental film based on the album.

[ChuckSty 0]

yeah space is the place is pretty cool for sure.

[finker09 0]

Assem, I started my college career as a Jazz Saxohone major. I'm a massive Sonny Rollins fan, he's who I try to pattern my tone after. I own well over 600 albums. I'd love to talk about some Jazz 8)

awesome i also play saxophone(alto) in jazz...not a college career though...might sound dumg but i like kenny g. and he is one heck of a golfer

[akishore 0]

i see that no one (besides kdawg, i'm assuming, since he was a jazz student) here is a hardcore jazz fan like me, but that's alright, you guys are still awesome anyway for at least appreciating this eighth wonder of the world.1. miles davis, kind of blue, is of course, brilliant. for anyone who is interested in jazz, i would 110% recommend this as the first album you buy. this album is the essence of jazz... it demonstrates the ideas of improvisation (motives/statements/ideas, expression, conversation between players, etc.) brilliantly and shows the simplicity yet beauty of this art form. once you hear "so what" and memorize/transcribe miles's solo, you'll recognize it at a bunch of places... weather channel music, party music, movie music, etc.2. i'm a fan of dave brubeck, sure, but if you're into west coast, check out paul desmond, my favorite west-coast saxophonist by far. he is the one that plays on take five on the take five album, but he has done a lot of stuff independtly of brubeck also (i think, and many critics have said, that desmond was too restricted in his brilliant expressions when he played on brubeck's charts, because brubeck's waltzes and time signatures [3/4, 5/4, etc.] limited desmond's ideas... nevertheless, desmond's solos were still brilliant, though). stan getz is also a brilliant west-coast jazz sax cat if you're into that stuff.3. charles mingus is by far one of my favorite jazz cats of all time. his compositions have tremendously influenced my writing, and his innovations are freaking out of this world. i remember the first chart of his i played, fables of faubus, and how outside and crazy it was. at first, i didn't like it, but after you come to appreciate it, you start seeing how insanely ingenious it is. definitley listen to his albums like "ah um" and "mingus says ____" ("mingus speaks ____"? blanking on the name right now), but after that, check out the mingus big band--out of this world!!! holy shit, listen to fables of faubus, ecclusiastics, goodbye porkpie hat, and other mingus charts played by his big band--insane!!! his big band was brilliant, and his arrangements were brilliant. mingus is godly in my eyes, definitely check him out if you haven't already.4. sonny rollins is great, but i haven't gotten into him too much. i'll get a hold of more of his stuff, kdawg. but the stuff of his i've heard is really great, of course. i really dig his solo on st thomas.5. coltrane, of course. i don't want to get into it too much, but i was never too big a fan of coltrane. it's funny actually because everywhere i go, i seem to be the only one. everyone else accepts coltrane as god, but i never dug his music too much. i never liked his tone or intonation or arrangements, and while i grant that his soloing is genius, i just never dug it either. personal taste i guess.6. kenny g... i won't go there . well, to each his own, but there are reasons why virtually every jazz musician on the planet hates him... namely: intonation, soloing, sell-out, intonation, classic sounds-good-to-general-public-syndrome, etc. i don't mean to get into this too much, but i really can't listen to his music for more than a few seconds. the way he holds a "climactic" note for 7 seconds then plays a random fast lick (with actually several wrong notes if you transcribe them) then holds another climactic note for 15 seconds... ick. i don't mean to rag on your favorite artist, sorry, haha.7. blues... man, this is by far my favorite form of jazz! i really don't know too many actual blues artists, but i listen on the radio whenever i get the chance (NPR plays blues a lot on the weekends). i'll talk about blues more later, but man... i die for blues.ok, this thread is already long enough, i just wanted to address the guys you all brought up. i'll make another thread soon about people i'm currently into or that i've been into before:- peter cincotti- herbie hancock- keith jarrett- chick corea- bobby mcferrin- jamie cullum- duke ellington- ella fitzgerald- frank sinatra- charles mingus in more detail- lincoln center jazz orchestra- arturo sandoval- jj johnson and kai winding- some modern funk guys like michael davis- some fusion guys like andre bush- modern jazz quartetanyway, there's much to talk about. i look forward to awesome discussion of jazz.groove on,aseemedit: forgot to mention... i'm a jazz trombonist mainly as well as a jazz composer/arranger. i also play some jazz mallets (vibraphone and marimba) and some weak, weak jazz piano. as for my composing, i'm all over the place... i've written for my combo (quintet), my big band, a trombone funk quartet, an organic wind ensemble chart, etc. that's my background.

[ChuckSty 0]

arturo sandoval. he sat in with a combo i played in once. he was a bad ass. a complete dick though.

[KDawgCometh 2]

i see that no one (besides kdawg, i'm assuming, since he was a jazz student) here is a hardcore jazz fan like me, but that's alright, you guys are still awesome anyway for at least appreciating this eighth wonder of the world.- peter cincotti- herbie censored- keith jarrett- chick corea- bobby mcferrin- jamie cullum- duke ellington- ella fitzgerald- frank sinatra- charles mingus in more detail- lincoln center jazz orchestra- arturo sandoval- jj johnson and kai winding- some modern funk guys like michael davis- some fusion guys like andre bush- modern jazz quartetanyway, there's much to talk about. i look forward to awesome discussion of jazz.groove on,aseemedit: forgot to mention... i'm a jazz trombonist mainly as well as a jazz composer/arranger. i also play some jazz mallets (vibraphone and marimba) and some weak, weak jazz piano. as for my composing, i'm all over the place... i've written for my combo (quintet), my big band, a trombone funk quartet, an organic wind ensemble chart, etc. that's my background.

Yeah, I'm an utter Jazz freak, I burned myself out on playing(I chose a social life over practicing for 10 hours a day my soph year, but I still listen all of the time). If you don't have it get Three Quartets by Chick, its just sick. Definetly check out sonny, but be certain to ask me first as his stuff gets kinda weird after 1960, there brilliance and utter weirdness in the same song sometimes. As far as Mingus, man I don't have enough space to talk about him. A great album of his is a live one from Paris in 1964, I forget the name offhand, but It has Sue Mingus and Charles on the cover and Charles is is a sheik like garb sorta, it was Eric Dolphy's final performance before his death, it is an amazing performance that really stretches bounds. You should check out a new pianist named Orrin Evans. He is on CrissCross so you know that its good. My former teacher is on a couple of the Albums(Ralph Bowen, and he is massively underrated)

[ChuckSty 0]

hey kdawg and aki maybe we should start a combo.we need a poker playing drummer and piano player. you guys both play sax. i can't remember exactly?tenor or alto?and have either of you guys seen the mingus documentary, and not the triumh of the underdog one, the real one. there's some footage from it in triumph of the underdog but most of the gritty footage is gone. Cumbia and Jazz fusion was an amazing album. Black Saint and the Sinner Lady might is one of my favorite albums of all time. And as much as some people hate the Money Jungle album he did with Duke and Max Roach i like it alot. Mingus was pissed at Duke and was playing some incredibly out shit. I think the quintet album is a little overrated but the players on that album can probably never be beat. It's funny i'm just not around much jazz anymore because i'm not at school and not trying to make a living playing music right now but talking about it brings it all back. thanks

[ChuckSty 0]

aki, i am much more into the writing side as well but my writing tended to steer away from the traditional instruments in jazz and from that into electronics. vibraphone and marimba however are probably two of my favorite instruments ever. i love the sound of pretty melody's being played with a vibraphone as well as ostinatos on either instrument.well that and the wurlitzer. well and the acoustic bass, but i get bored with that sound becasue i play it so much.

[KDawgCometh 2]

I play the real saxophone:tenor baby. I played alto before it but whenI first tried the tenor it just seemed right. I guess I figured that those who knew would assume I played Tenor since I'm a Sonny Rollins nut. Joe Henderson too. I also did a lot of writing. I even entered some Big Band Comp contests when I was still in the music. I'll probably get back into it after I move back to chitown

[ChuckSty 0]

well i figured tenor but i didnt' want to make any assumptions.also there is a silly silly bari- solo on one of the mingus big band albums although i suddenly can't remember what song it is.i mean i know he's dead and all but the solo on that song is awesome. i used to go see them when i was in music school up in ny alot. anyway yeah tenor is the real sax but i have an affinity to the bari as well just casue it can growl some, but for practical purposes i love the baritone.

[ChuckSty 0]

i meant tenor at the end. sorry.i was thinking of moving to chicago myself in the future. my family is from there and i am a chi town sports junky. plus my favorite record label is based there. regardless is there card rooms up there.

[KDawgCometh 2]

Chuck: the Bari solo your oooking for is Ronnie Cuber from Live In Time and I think teh song is E's flat Ah's flat too

[akishore 0]

chuck man... that's insane that you got to sit with arturo. i undoubtedly believe he was an ass, but that ass could play the damn trumpet!i play trombone btw, not sax.and as for the bari solo, i was actually thinking "moanin" (not the art blakey or common blues chart, the mingus chart), it has a wicked bari solo right at the beginning. i think they also used that chart in the movie "the whole nine yards" somewhere, i remember that.anyway, i'll check out some sonny stuff soon, but if any of you are looking to buy a CD, definitely check out peter cincotti. he's the next frank sinatra except that he also plays the piano and solos like a mofo. and his charts swing like nothing else.his first cd was self-named "peter-cincotti", it's insanely amazing. his second cd is "on the moon" or something with the word "moon" (blanking right now), and there are maybe five charts there that REALLY rock HARD (the others, IMHO, are a little soft-rock-ish, and i don't dig that, but they're still musically great ballads).aseem

[ChuckSty 0]

yeah actually the one i was thinking was on "moanin" regardless the whole arturo thing happened because i was doing a gig with a couple of my teachers and they both toured with arturo for a couple of years and he was in town so he sat in. It was hilarious, i was checking my tuning on my bass while he was getting up to play and Chip McNeil was introducing him and I hit my open a string and he actually made a comment to me about me being an ******* in the club. and then afterwords he was like, don't ever to something like that to me again. he smoked it though, he can hit some highs.

[ForumMod 0]

Well right now im listening to Johhny Lang, a young musician, if you like Jazz you'd like him, good young blues phenom in my opinion he's been recording since he was 15...I also listen to "new age jazz" in the form of Madeski Martin and Wood... No lyrics here, thats what they're classified as, its an intrsumental group that really has a good rythym.Jazz is good stuff, but I listen to every type of music so its really not a suprise that I like jazz as well.