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[pokerplayer24]

Effective Stacks 300
Sb seems like a decent player but no real reads.

1/2 nl 6 handed

I make it 8 from the button with 22, sb calls, bb folds


Flop (pot 18)
A A K

He checks, I bet 12, he calls.

Turn (pot 42)
2

He bets 12, i raised to 55, he calls

River (pot 152)
7

He pushes for for 225ish

easy fold? easy call?

[cwik]

I thought your question was going to be how do you get all his money in on the river. He did the hard part for you. If your beat here, thats the reason for bankroll management.

[Canary3]

easy call! what are you afraid of?

[DrawingDeadInDM]

Easy call.

[No_Neck]

Easy call.

yeah you have to call, he could be doing this with a lone ace, if he has AK tip your hat.

[Verdimme]

I think stacksizes are key here. How deep do you need to be to fold this?

[No_Neck]

I think stacksizes are key here. How deep do you need to be to fold this?

I need my niece in the pot before I fold here. But ISAP

[Acid_Knight]

I need my niece in the pot before I fold here. But ISAP

Even with your niece in there, calling is still +EV.

[delasoul]

I make the call here as well...6 handed. If you lose you blame the poker gods for giving you your key card. Not very many hands that beat you here anyways. KK I'm sure there would have been a re-raise pre-flop unless he is known to be tricky. Only other hand you can possibly lose too is 7's or AK. I agree that is why bankroll managment is key for hands like this.

[Verdimme]

Even with your niece in there, calling is still +EV.

So if he shoves for 1000bb extra, you beat him in the pot?

[DrawingDeadInDM]

So if he shoves for 1000bb extra, you beat him in the pot?

Oh, Jesus, Sklansky..

"I don't lose more than 130 big blinds with this set"

[Verdimme]

Oh, Jesus, Sklansky..

"I don't lose more than 130 big blinds with this set"

Is this really so absurd for you? I'm just saying that there IS a point where you need to fold this. I'm not saying this is the place. Point still stands.

[trystero]

I make the call here as well...6 handed. If you lose you blame the poker gods for giving you your key card. Not very many hands that beat you here anyways. KK I'm sure there would have been a re-raise pre-flop unless he is known to be tricky. Only other hand you can possibly lose too is 7's or AK. I agree that is why bankroll managment is key for hands like this.

I think 77 would've jumped ship on either the flop or turn. The only hands I'm really worried about are A7 + AK. We're ahead of so many aces though that we just can't fold this. What's scary though is his push - it reeks of a fullhouse that suspects we'll have trouble folding trip aces without a flush or straight out.

[DonkSlayer]

I think 77 would've jumped ship on either the flop or turn. The only hands I'm really worried about are A7 + AK. We're ahead of so many aces though that we just can't fold this. What's scary though is his push - it reeks of a fullhouse that suspects we'll have trouble folding trip aces without a flush or straight out.

I really piss myself when he open-pushes the river. We still call but I would expect to win this hand just over 60% of the time. I very frequently just call raises with the stonecolds and then make the move on the next card.

[DrawingDeadInDM]

Is this really so absurd for you? I'm just saying that there IS a point where you need to fold this. I'm not saying this is the place. Point still stands.

No, you're right..I apologize. I've just been reading quite a bit of 2+2 lately and I get annoyed a bit with that non-functional analysis.

I do agree that there is a point where you must fold this, but, I do not believe that it will arrise in most online cash game situations because of the capped buy-in.

[Acid_Knight]

Is this really so absurd for you? I'm just saying that there IS a point where you need to fold this. I'm not saying this is the place. Point still stands.

In this hand, calling is +EV. The whole niece thing was obviously just a joke. There is a time to fold an underfull, but this doesn't happen to be one of them.

[Jordan]

this is almost always a call.

and whether or not your are paying him off in this individual circumstance shouldn't matter...i think you'll have the best hand here "most" of the time...

- Jordan

[Verdimme]

No, you're right..I apologize. I've just been reading quite a bit of 2+2 lately and I get annoyed a bit with that non-functional analysis.

I do agree that there is a point where you must fold this, but, I do not believe that it will arrise in most online cash game situations because of the capped buy-in.

Apology accepted. I've been reading 2+2, too. Samoleus eh? I agree with the bolded part.

[Peak01]

Wow guys, everyone here says call but I really have a hard time with this no matter what the math says.

We bet then raise his bet on the turn so he has to put us on at least an Ace. If I am in his shoes there is no way I am getting you off your Ace by pushing. This makes me feel he has a higher boat. I think we are looking at AK or A7 here more times than not.

Maybe I am giving to much credit to people at those stakes. Something tells me I need to fold this though.

[delasoul]

Well I think you have to look at long term odds wouldn't you? If this is a profitable call where you win 50 to 60% of the time then I don't see how this can be a fold.

I don't know how aggressive 6 handed could be since I play at a full table. Would someone at these stakes cold call AK and not re-pop it before the flop. Also this is a button raise so from SB perspective he could have a variety of hands and would just be trying to buy the blinds. If he were to have a hand I'm more likely to believe A7.