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[tskillz187]

Ultimate Bet 0.50/1 Hold'em (10 handed) converterPreflop: Hero is Button with 7:diamond:, 9:diamond:. 2 folds, BB calls, Logans calls, MP3 calls.Flop: (8.50 SB) 4:club:, T:heart:, 2:heart: (5 players)BB checks, MP1 checks, MP3 checks, Hero bets, BB folds, MP1 calls, MP3 folds.Turn: (5.25 BB) 5:spade: (3 players)MP1 checks, Hero bets, MP1 calls.River: (7.25 BB) 3:club: (3 players)MP1 checks, Hero bets, MP1 calls.Final Pot: 9.25 BBI realize the preflop may be a little loose, but I thought I should try and carry out my raise on flop, the weak calls made me think he was on heart draw...

[Trono]

Not to stray from your question, but when using the bison convertor: use the bet the pot format or when using the 2 + 2 change the color: to color=.

[tskillz187]

okay, i see the bet the pot format thing, whats this with changing the color? if i justchange it to bet the pot, will i be fine for this forum?

[109suited]

You had 9 high. Check/Fold anywhere is good. Not raising before the flop is better. I like folding before the flop the most. Actually, I can't think of anything that you did that I like really. lol.

[Emptyeye]

Yeah, just changing it to Bet the Pot format will work fine.And uh, you do know that you raised preflop and then bet all the way down with nine high and no draw whatsoever, right?So let's see, better options are to:Fold preflop.Check/fold the flop (Though given your preflop raise [Which is not good, for the record, but since you made it], I do like the continued postflop aggression...just try not to do it with nine-high and no draw in the future).Check/fold the turn (Once you get called on the flop and still have nothing, it's really time to shut it down).Check/fold the river (No, really, I'm serious, you still have nothing, please stop betting. I'm confident your nine-high was not good here, am I correct?).

[Rebecca]

When I raise preflop and four other players see the flop, I am alot more cautious in continuing to represent the best hand. Especially if I've completely missed the flop. Odds are someone else has hit it in some way.

tskillz187 said:

I realize the preflop may be a little loose, but I thought I should try and carry out my raise on flop, the weak calls made me think he was on heart draw...

Even if he was on a heart draw...the only cards he'd be holding that you could beat in the end would be a 7 8 .Just curious, but are you generally a NL player?

[Absolute]

I thought this might be a joke when I first read it, but alas it is not.So here is "where you went wrong"You raised PF with 79s 10-handed = wrongyou completely missed the flop and bet at it with a 9 high = wrongBlank on the turn, and you bet with 9 high = wrongbetting the river with a 9 high = wrongits good to follow up PF aggression, but as a friend of mine likes to say"Some people have balls, but thats not to say they arent stupid balls"

[tskillz187]

Im aware the 9 high is not a great raise preflop but I did it regardless, thank you everyone for not commenting on the pre-flop raise when my first post said I knew it was loose. I was posting it knowing that I did not play it correctly, but I believe these hands are the educational ones in which people can learn how to minimize losses with limit. Also, I mix up my limit, nl and pl omaha, but the betting of the river in NL would have been a much better play. The actual guy who won the pot with QQ showed no aggression the entire time and I thought he was on a draw, I wasnt hoping for him to call my river bet with 78 but that he would drop his hearts when he missed the draw, though I know bluffing is not usually successful in limit. Thanks for all of the responses.

[akishore]

following up with aggression on the flop after you raised pre-flop is done for two reasons:1. you can make others fold.2. you would be willing to call a bet anyway, e.g. with overcards and a backdoor flush draw on a ragged flop.for the first reason, it's very person-dependent. unless you have a read on a guy or notes that say "chases to the river, he will fold to one bet on the river if he missed his draw" or "always calls a flop bet but folds on the turn when the limit doubles", stop bluffing (trying to make people fold) after the flop.you also don't have a good reason to be betting because you would be calling. you wouldn't call this flop at all with 9-high and only a backdoor straight draw, would you?so after the flop, you have no reason to be betting anymore, so stop betting.make sense?aseem

[obs]

Just an off topic note, when using the 2+2 forum selection in the converter, replace "color:" with "color=". Would be cool if someone could modify the forums to accept color:.

[akishore]

obs said:

Just an off topic note, when using the 2+2 forum selection in the converter, replace "color:" with "color=". Would be cool if someone could modify the forums to accept color:.

or instead of using the 2+2 forum selection, use the "bet the pot" selection instead. it comes out perfect.aseem

[wrto4556]

raising this preflop has a very smal +EV. Very small. If you can't play it correctly postflop it has -EV. Check the flop, fold the turn.

[looshle]

I realize this isn't a joke but I'm still going to pretend it is. Mostly for your sake and not mine.