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[rog]

1) Buy or build a hand converter and host it on this site.

2) Make conversion a HARD requirement for posting. No conversion, post gets removed. (cant impose 2 until we do 1)

3) Male omission of results a HARD requirement for posting.

4) Make Actuary (and a few other format Nazis) moderators whose only mandate is to reject on the basis of hand converted, and results not show.

[James D]

Sounds like a sensible idea to have a hand converter, in the strat forum.

One thing though, I'm sure that if Actuary or any other 'Format Nazis' as you say, have any lives away from this forum then they will not appreciate being made to review every post... I still think that job should still be with the moderators.

But the converter is a good idea.

[Zach6668]

4) Make Actuary (and a few other format Nazis) moderators whose only mandate is to reject on the basis of hand converted, and results not show.

I'd like to publicize my desire to mod strat forums, with respect to my conversion/results nazism.

One thing though, I'm sure that if Actuary or any other 'Format Nazis' as you say, have any lives away from this forum then they will not appreciate being made to review every post... I still think that job should still be with the moderators.

I read every post in micro, SHLHE, LHE, tons in NL and tons in Tourney, and I have a life.

As for Actuary, he doesn't have a life, so who cares?

[rog]

One thing though, I'm sure that if Actuary or any other 'Format Nazis' as you say, have any lives away from this forum then they will not appreciate being made to review every post... I still think that job should still be with the moderators.

Actuary already does it. He rejects posts with scathing sarcasm. A delete button would probably actually save him time, and clean the forums up a lot. I'm not talking about running all posts through him. I'm talking about giving some respected forum members the ability to remove posts that dont meet the format guidelines.

As for the converter, I suggested a long time ago that we should host a converter tool here if we're going to beat on people about using one. In fact, we should integrate it into our forum software. I dont know how extensible our forum software is, but if we had [hand][/hand] tags that converted the contents in between, then this forum would be light-years ahead of competitors.

I'd like to publicize my desire to mod strat forums, with respect to my conversion/results nazism.

heh heh...I had you in mind for this if this idea gets traction.

[James D]

Ok, that's cool then... If people wanna do it then yeah, I'm all for it, because it makes sense. Was just thinking about them really.

There has been times when I have wanted to post a few hands here before and didn't, because I know that it's not appreciated without being converted.

Lets make it happen then!

[antistuff]

i offer my time to make a hand converter if someone is willing to help me.

[rog]

To make this happen, we need the support and assistence of the site administration. I'll poke around and see if I can figure out who needs to be involved.

[psujohn]

To make this happen, we need the support and assistence of the site administration. I'll poke around and see if I can figure out who needs to be involved.

PM goverantor.

Most of the converters I've seen are based off of one written by a guy from 2+2. If we could get access to that it should be pretty easy to update it/customize it and host it here.

[hand] tags that automatically convert sounds like a good idea but almost every hand needs to be converted after it's edited so that action stops at the critical decision. A "should I push this river" question isn't helpful if we see you pushed the river and villain called (even if the results aren't shown).

The best solution for threads that don't comply is to lock them but allow the OP to edit their post to make it compliant. That way if you want feedback you MUST convert and if you're new/don't know the policy you'd have a chance to fix it.

#1 way to improve stat - DN had this idea way back - get pros to participate. Whether DN or e-dog or lesser know pros or guys like steve7stud or well respected members like BKice, Looshle, etc.

A rating/feedback system where you could give a poster points for a good strat response or subtract points for a lame-assed comment might work too though it'd have to be integrated with the forum.

[antistuff]

PM goverantor.

Most of the converters I've seen are based off of one written by a guy from 2+2. If we could get access to that it should be pretty easy to update it/customize it and host it here.

[hand] tags that automatically convert sounds like a good idea but almost every hand needs to be converted after it's edited so that action stops at the critical decision. A "should I push this river" question isn't helpful if we see you pushed the river and villain called (even if the results aren't shown).

The best solution for threads that don't comply is to lock them but allow the OP to edit their post to make it compliant. That way if you want feedback you MUST convert and if you're new/don't know the policy you'd have a chance to fix it.

#1 way to improve stat - DN had this idea way back - get pros to participate. Whether DN or e-dog or lesser know pros or guys like steve7stud or well respected members like BKice, Looshle, etc.

A rating/feedback system where you could give a poster points for a good strat response or subtract points for a lame-assed comment might work too though it'd have to be integrated with the forum.

you know how when you click the little button with the globe to add a link and there is a popup...why not do something like that...can you make a popup with a textarea like that i dont know....

then it would put the hand into the make a post box and you could edit it to your hearts content.



just having a seperate page for it somwhere with a link up on the top by where it says "help search members calendar" would probobly be the most elegant way though.

[aucu]

FTR hand converter is damn easy to use. I convert all my hands except those posted durring play because I don't have the time.

Don't think we need anything like a clamp down here that will only scare noobs away who need the help more.

[Actuary]

If you want to do you part, quit replying to unconverted hands or hands with results. Simple.

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FTR converter is very simple.

It's even simple to do a hand by hand.
Just delete names (courtesy)
Replace with posions.
Include Stacks.
Bets
And Give pot size at each Street

5 min Tops

and Zach is right, I have no life.
at least not from 10-7 Mon - Fri.
Hopefully, that changes sooner than later.

[KDawgCometh]

the onus is really on the posters. I don't get why people get pissy about actuary telling them something that they don't like, the fact is when you post your hand, people are doing you a favor by replying to it and giving you advice, so the least that people can do is convert their hands so that they can get better advice

[Actuary]

Keith,

your reply echoes mine above as well.
If we refuse to help, they will start converting

We're not too far removed from this thread:

"May I suggest we hire one more moderator whose sole pupose is to convert our hands. thank you. Sometimes the converter is broken, or I'm in the middle of a tourney, or 6 tabling, and can't get to it right away."

[steve7stud]

I think that having a mod for this section is a good idea. As far as posting in strat, or responding to threads. I personally have learned that books like sshe are teaching people to play in a different fashion than I normally would. So my advice would not neccessarily be the best. It would be better to find a winning 5-10 lhe player to give advice on lower limits, as opposed to a winning higher limit player imo.

[Actuary]

as far as limit...

Screech left.
Abba's good.
little arrogant and condescending..but that just makes him more loveable.. in a "I want to stab him" kinda way.

PP24 would be nice; except he probably can't teach us his 6th sense reading ability.

[CobaltBlue]

So my advice would not neccessarily be the best. It would be better to find a winning 5-10 lhe player to give advice on lower limits, as opposed to a winning higher limit player imo.

Some of us are trying to move into mid/high-stakes, so your advice would be quite welcome.

as far as limit...

Screech left.
Abba's good.
little arrogant and condescending..but that just makes him more loveable.. in a "I want to stab him" kinda way.

PP24 would be nice; except he probably can't teach us his 6th sense reading ability.

Oh, and we got Aki back. =)

[Actuary]

Some of us are trying to move into mid/high-stakes, so your advice would be quite welcome.
Oh, and we got Aki back. =)

you and tim and BeanGW were always ther for me...
and chris, iceman, kdawg, smash.. although they were way levels beyond me...ah darn..so many.

it's just a vacuum.
Then again, I don't play much anymore.

[Zach6668]

I'm gonna post some of my thoughts in this when I get "home". I have a dream, lol.

[Actuary]

I'm gonna post some of my thoughts in this when I get "home". I have a dream, lol.

:holdingbreathface:

[Zach6668]

:holdingbreathface:

I knew you would be excited.